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re: Film Room Breakdown of Hurts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:44 am to Teague
Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:44 am to Teague
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If you pay attention to what Saban has said so far this spring, you'll notice he's been very careful about his comments on Hurts. For the first time ever, he's being assertive about who the starting QB will be next year
First time ever? Are you saying that he didn't do that with Mcelroy, and Mccarron? Because you'd be wrong.
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 11:46 am to Huddie Leadbetter
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You guys have blamed the receivers, the offensive linemen, the coaches, the game plan. Everything except Hurts.
Dude, how dense are you? Basically every single poster on this board has stated that Hurts's performance wasn't good for the most part.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:01 pm to Funky Tide 8
Ironic comment considering the fact that most reasonably intelligent adults can discuss a subject without unprovoked personal insults or attacks.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:36 pm to Funky Tide 8
quote:(extremely.)
Dude, how dense are you?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:10 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Ironic comment considering the fact that most reasonably intelligent adults can discuss a subject without unprovoked personal insults or attacks.
Spare me your straw-man comments.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:33 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Spare me your straw-man comments.
I don't think you even know what a straw man fallacy is. Tell me what you think it is.
In any event, you're trying to spin away from a point that you can't refute.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:39 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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I don't think you even know what a straw man fallacy is. Tell me what you think it is.
I stated that almost every single poster here has admitted that Hurts wasn't great in the NC, and instead of trying to argue in favor of your dubious claim, or admitting that you are indeed being dense, you stated that that I can't discuss a subject like a reasonably intelligent adult because I called you dense.
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In any event, you're trying to spin away from a point that you can't refute.
okay buddy. This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:42 pm to uofarolltide
Fact is if Kiffin had not gone to east west and we would still run the ball with the north south running style we are used to it doesn't matter what Hurts does in the game. Do I need to remind y'all of the QB play of McElroy and Barker in national title games. The only QB we have had in the modern era to look good winning a national title was AJ and he had a great run game that people had to load the box to even hope to stop... and they still couldn't do it. Bama lost its power identity in offense that's what this season boiled down to.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:47 pm to Funky Tide 8
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instead of trying to argue in favor of your dubious claim, or admitting that you are indeed being dense, you stated that that I can't discuss a subject like a reasonably intelligent adult because I called you dense.
Maybe I didn't want to argue. Maybe I didn't see the point in arguing about it anymore, especially with somebody whose primary intent isn't even to discuss, but to argue and insult, somebody to whom the earlier comment wasn't even directed, somebody that still can't explain what is a straw man fallacy, or how my observation is that.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:08 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
quote:then maybe don't come into a thread making an ignorant, false claim? Then people might not call you out for being dense, and making ignorant, false claims. You say that you don't want to argue, yet you make a post that you know for a fact will incite argument. Seems legit.
Maybe I didn't want to argue. Maybe I didn't see the point in arguing about it anymore, especially with somebody whose primary intent isn't even to discuss, but to argue and insult, somebody to whom the earlier comment wasn't even directed.
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somebody that still can't explain what is a straw man fallacy, or how my observation is that.
You are literally responding to the post where I explained to you that instead of defending your dubious claim, you attempted to discredit me for calling you dense.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:20 pm to Funky Tide 8
Oh, ok. Most times I don't even read your posts, but in review of this thread, I can see why my earlier observation pissed you off. Well, other than the fact you are a Jalen Hurts fanboy.
"Most of the time he had to bail out because the interior linemen were getting blown up."
"Most of the time he had to bail out because the interior linemen were getting blown up."
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:28 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Oh, ok. Most times I don't even read your posts,
sure you don't. But I will concede that ad hominem was the fallacy that I meant to cite, not strawman
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"Most of the time he had to bail out because the interior linemen were getting blown up."
Okay? I also mentioned in the same post that his pocket presence was clearly undeveloped, and he had trouble seeing the field.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:39 pm to Funky Tide 8
Ad hominem fallacy is when, instead of debating the substance, or logic of the argument, the respondent attacks the character, motive, or other attribute of the person.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:40 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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Ad hominem fallacy is when, instead of debating the substance, or logic of the argument, the respondent attacks the character, motive, or other attribute of the person.
Which is what you did.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
I called you dense, rather than debating the points of fact?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:48 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
No, you called me incapable of having a reasonable, intelligent conversation without insults(because I called you dense,) instead of debating the points of the fact,
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:52 pm to Funky Tide 8
I called you incapable of having a reasonable and intelligent conversation, or I made an observation that you assume was about you.
That's interesting. Why did you assume that?
That's interesting. Why did you assume that?
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:54 pm to Huddie Leadbetter
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I called you incapable of having a reasonable and intelligent conversation, or I made an observation that you assume was about you.
That's interesting. Why did you assume that?
you frickin serious, Clark?
Posted on 4/5/17 at 6:35 am to Funky Tide 8
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First time ever? Are you saying that he didn't do that with Mcelroy, and Mccarron? Because you'd be wrong.
Yes, I AM saying what I said. Saban has never made such an effort to stress any specific player is going to be the starter, no competition required.
You (of all people) saying I'm wrong, doesn't mean I'm wrong. You'd be better served scouring the internet for one more completed pass by Hurts to start another thread about.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 7:29 am to Teague
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Saban has never made such an effort to stress any specific player is going to be the starter, no competition required.
I very well may have missed something, but I don't recall seeing any quote from Saban in regard to Hurts being the starter other than in the context of him being a returning starter compared to the past few years where we've not had a returning starter at the position.
It wouldn't have made sense for him to comment on it before as we weren't coming off of 3 straight years of pre-season uncertainty at the position when McElroy or McCarron were coming back.
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