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re: Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:58 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:58 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Not saying it would absolutely happen but I would love for a set up where (for certain plays not every snap)
Fowler is the W (our X's/O's designation for our H-B/Fullback), Henry is the F (our designation for our true RB), and Yeldon is the H (our designation for the receiver position played mostly by Christion Jones, still considered a "back" in our terminology).
That would use each of their current strenghs (Fowler catching/blocking, Yeldon's APB skills, and Henry's every down RB skills). You could do speed sweeps with Yeldon, plus use the motion for all kinds of fakes off it as well.
If you have a defender looking the backfield at the snap they are thinking not reacting. An enemy who is thinking is not fighting and an enemy who is fighting is not thinking. Like Malzahn or not he makes defenders play assignment football which slows them down and either neutralizes their aggression or uses it to the defenders detriment.
Fowler is the W (our X's/O's designation for our H-B/Fullback), Henry is the F (our designation for our true RB), and Yeldon is the H (our designation for the receiver position played mostly by Christion Jones, still considered a "back" in our terminology).
That would use each of their current strenghs (Fowler catching/blocking, Yeldon's APB skills, and Henry's every down RB skills). You could do speed sweeps with Yeldon, plus use the motion for all kinds of fakes off it as well.
If you have a defender looking the backfield at the snap they are thinking not reacting. An enemy who is thinking is not fighting and an enemy who is fighting is not thinking. Like Malzahn or not he makes defenders play assignment football which slows them down and either neutralizes their aggression or uses it to the defenders detriment.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 2:10 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:02 am to thatdude1985
I never thought that I would say this but Henry is the starter. I think by spring it should be Drake/Tenpenny and then Yeldon. Tenpenny will pass him by summer if the coaches will let it happen.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:04 am to Cobrasize
What has Tenpenny done other than average 3.73 YPC in garbage time...
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:06 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I hope Drake stops pissing in Saban's Cheerios. A one two punch of Henry and Drake would be unstoppable. I'm done with Yeldon's fumbling arse.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:06 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
He is just a freshman. I've always thought he was a very talented back. I really wanted him to redshirt this year but I guess they needed him. I personally think he will be the best out of all of them. I know that I'm in the minority with that.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:14 am to Cobrasize
That's fair, it's all opinions.
I believe the idea was Henry and Tenpenny were the most physically ready guys, so they didn't RS the other two did. Clearly Henry has the ability, I think Jones does too. I don't know if Tenpenny does or not, but I certainly think he'll have a solid career here.
I believe the idea was Henry and Tenpenny were the most physically ready guys, so they didn't RS the other two did. Clearly Henry has the ability, I think Jones does too. I don't know if Tenpenny does or not, but I certainly think he'll have a solid career here.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:15 am to thatdude1985
Yeldon holds the god damn ball like a loaf of bread and runs with it away from his body.
Don't you think the coaches have tried every damn thing in the world at this point?
Guy will always be a fumbler, period. Some RB's just have shite ball security and sadly he is one of them.
It doesn't matter how much RB talent you have, if you consistently put the ball on the ground, you are a liability to the team.
Don't you think the coaches have tried every damn thing in the world at this point?
Guy will always be a fumbler, period. Some RB's just have shite ball security and sadly he is one of them.
It doesn't matter how much RB talent you have, if you consistently put the ball on the ground, you are a liability to the team.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:19 am to IAmReality
I never thought that Henry would be the stud running back that he is. I was dead wrong. That said, I don't think we can fix Yeldon. He fumbles and that's just all there is to it. I think Tenpenny is more of the "saban" back.
I honestly don't give a damn who it is, I just want one of the pricks to hold on to the ball and get first downs.
I honestly don't give a damn who it is, I just want one of the pricks to hold on to the ball and get first downs.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:27 am to Cobrasize
I'm done with Yeldon at running back. Use him exclusively in the slot. Give Tyren Jones or Altee Tenpenny carries. Yeldon doesn't care enough about ball security. If he doesn't care enough to protect the ball, we shouldn't care enough to play him. I don't care what stats you put up of his. Yeldon doesn't deserve to be the #1 or #2 back.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:30 am to chattabama
chatta I think you're overreacting to this game. Yeldon didn't have much o a fumble problem last year. I chalk this year up to a Sophomore slump.
Only back in school history to have back to back 1k yard rushing seasons in his Fr and So years, he's earned the right to at least 12 carries a game. At least.
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Yeldon doesn't deserve to be the #1 or #2 back.
Only back in school history to have back to back 1k yard rushing seasons in his Fr and So years, he's earned the right to at least 12 carries a game. At least.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:33 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Biggest two games of the year last season:
Put the ball on the ground in the red zone against LSU in the 2nd half of a close ball game.
Put the ball on the ground near the red zone against A&M in the 2nd half of a close ball game.
I'd call that a fumbling problem.
He had the same critical fumbles this year as well, he just added to that a bunch of other random fumbles along the way too.
Put the ball on the ground in the red zone against LSU in the 2nd half of a close ball game.
Put the ball on the ground near the red zone against A&M in the 2nd half of a close ball game.
I'd call that a fumbling problem.
He had the same critical fumbles this year as well, he just added to that a bunch of other random fumbles along the way too.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 2:34 am
Posted on 1/3/14 at 2:35 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Only back in school history to have back to back 1k yard rushing seasons in his Fr and So years, he's earned the right to at least 12 carries a game. At least.
He almost cost us the ATM game this year. He did cost us the OU game this year. He fumbles. Every time he touches the ball I worry that it will hit the turf. What good are his 1000 yards when he coughs up the ball at the worst time. I'd rather have a 800 yard season rusher who hangs on to the ball.
He has shown that he doesn't deserve the starting job next year. I hope Saban plays the most deserving, not the one with the most seniority.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 6:55 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Yeldon didn't have much o a fumble problem last year. I chalk this year up to a Sophomore slump.
If there is anything consistent about Yeldon from last year to this one, it is his uncanny ability to fumble during big games. Last year he fumbled against LSU and A&M in big time situations, this year he has done more of the same again.
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he's earned the right to at least 12 carries a game. At least.
This is one of our problems. We don't trust the younger kid or hotter hand, we continue to go with who has "earned the right". Cade "earned the right" too and he is pressure situation missing machine.
Play the best, not those who have played well in the past. Had we done this we'd be in a championship game with Drake as our starter and Derrick Henry as our backup.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:09 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
There certainly not enough love for him from Nuss. One thing you can count on from our OC, if werun the ball for 6, 8, 10 yards a pop for consecutive downs the next play is guaranteed to be shotgun empty backfield. Or 3rd and short is shotgun formation, minimum of 4-wide. It's as if Nuss is embarassed to be in a run-oriented offense.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:11 am to SoFla Tideroller
U do realize he runs NS's offense?
Posted on 1/3/14 at 7:13 am to SoFla Tideroller
You could set your watch to our PA passes. One good run and we go right to them. OU could see them coming.
The only time in his career that he stayed committed to anything on offense was the second half of the 2012 UGA game when we finally just rant it right at UGA.
The only time in his career that he stayed committed to anything on offense was the second half of the 2012 UGA game when we finally just rant it right at UGA.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:04 am to FairhopeTider
If you guys aren't on the Henry hype train now I don't know what to tell you.....He's just a better football player than Yeldon. It should be Henry with Drake backing him then Yeldon. What it will probably be is Henry with Yeldon backing him. I really hope Drake can get out of the dog house though.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 8:10 am to FairhopeTider
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You could set your watch to our PA passes. One good run and we go right to them. OU could see them coming.
The only time in his career that he stayed committed to anything on offense was the second half of the 2012 UGA game when we finally just rant it right at UGA.
People were saying the exact opposite about Jim McElwain calling the same plays for the same offense. That he didn't trust his QB, granted that QB was a RS Sophomore when Jim was last here and a RS Sophomore with a reputation for being a gunslinger and a hot head. We saw some of that resurface last night sadly with AJ. Both those picks he had a damn smile on his face before and after the play. That is what the Saban spank was for, that is what the 2011 "QB competition" was for, that is what the "Calm the f ck down" Saban mouthed that time was for. AJ was a cocky bastard that Saban had to break like a pony.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 9:09 am to JuiceTerry
It's not so much that he fumbles, it's when he fumbles. They always seem to come in the red zone when Bama has a chance to shift momentum or put a game away.
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:21 pm to bamarep
Remember how many times commentators used to talk about Ingram and Richardson's yards after contact? The last time I heard a commentator talk about Yeldon's yards after contact was never.
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