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re: Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?

Posted on 11/19/13 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by thefloydian
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 4:00 pm to
He is great, no doubt. I think it's a combination of the fumbles and all the elite talent we've had at the position during the Saban era.
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 7:35 pm to
1. He's got big shoes to fill, he's coming Ingram, Richardson, and Lacey, who were all incredible, so he doesn't "stand out" as much.

2. He fumbles way more than any of those ever did and he does it at horrible times.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 8:08 pm to
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who were all incredible, so he doesn't "stand out" as much.


He has had a better career so far than any of them...
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 8:58 pm to
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He has had a better career so far than any of them...


I'm gonna say no. I don't care how many yards and TD's you put up if you fumble in big games and big moments.

A lost fumble is enough bad to cancel out a ton of good.
Posted by Libertyabides71
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 9:00 pm to
Yeldon can't be any good, our OL and AJ are too good to know how good Yeldon really is.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 10:22 pm to
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I'm gonna say no. I don't care how many yards and TD's you put up


well okie dokie.

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you put up if you fumble in big games and big moments.

Ingram had similar fumbles in the UT game in 2009, AND against Auburn in 2010.

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A lost fumble is enough bad to cancel out a ton of good.



No its not.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 10:24 pm
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:27 pm to
Turning the ball over is the single worst non-scoring play that can happen in a football game.

The goal of the game is to win, not for the RB to put up stats. A good RB helps his team win. Not fumbling the ball is just as important to a winning effort as putting up tons of yards.

According to your crazy logic a RB who rushed for 180 yards and had 7 lost fumbles had a great game.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/19/13 at 11:38 pm to
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According to your crazy logic a RB who rushed for 180 yards and had 7 lost fumbles had a great game.



How does a RB fumbling once every 4 games equate a RB fumbling 7 time in one game?

Like I said, Ingram had 2 fumbles in big moments, same as Yeldon, yet you are only arguing that this hurts Yeldon's elite status.




fun fact: Nick Marshall has the most fumbles of any one in the nation so far this year with 10.
This post was edited on 11/19/13 at 11:40 pm
Posted by thefloydian
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:46 am to
I don't think Yeldon should get any hate. He's great, we're just used to the best. He still has another year too.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:15 am to
Posted by BamaFanInAthens
Athens, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 9:06 pm to
Trent will always be my favorite player but T.J. is right close behind him. Just when you think the play is over, suddenly he reappears 3,4,5 yards ahead. Amazing guy, and for those of you who think Drake is better - let's just trust our great coaches to make that decision.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:56 am to
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Thank goodness for Yeldon that Drake isn't any better with ball security.
I feel like Yeldon put some separation between himself and Drake over the past few games. Both are very talented, but it is clear Yeldon is the better one.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 11:44 am to
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In our 3 biggest games(TAMU, OM, LSU), he has dominated.


Yeah, but his fumble last year against aTm helped get us beat, and his fumble this year against aTm almost helped us get beat. He doesn't just fumble...he fumbles in big games against big opponents in critical times and places on the field.

As another poster alluded to, the love for Lacy didn't really start until fans became comfortable with Lace re: ball security. It's gonna be the same with Yeldon. When he fixes that, it will take off. But he isn't there yet.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 11:45 am
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 12:00 pm to
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. He doesn't just fumble...he fumbles in big games against big opponents in critical times and places on the field.


Ingram did the same exact thing...never heard this talk about him.

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As another poster alluded to, the love for Lacy didn't really start until fans became comfortable with Lace re: ball security. It's gonna be the same with Yeldon. When he fixes that, it will take off. But he isn't there yet.


Dude, Lacy fumbled like twice when he was a freshman, and that's it. He didn't get love at first because he was backing up Ingram and Trent. The love for Yeldon is there, as he was a big reason that we won a championship last year. If you can't appreciate him, then that is on you.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:06 pm to
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Funky Tide 8
Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?
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. He doesn't just fumble...he fumbles in big games against big opponents in critical times and places on the field.


Ingram did the same exact thing...never heard this talk about him.

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As another poster alluded to, the love for Lacy didn't really start until fans became comfortable with Lace re: ball security. It's gonna be the same with Yeldon. When he fixes that, it will take off. But he isn't there yet.


Dude, Lacy fumbled like twice when he was a freshman, and that's it. He didn't get love at first because he was backing up Ingram and Trent. The love for Yeldon is there, as he was a big reason that we won a championship last year. If you can't appreciate him, then that is on you.



"Dude" there's a big difference between not appreciating someone and giving him as much love as you think he deserves. No, Ingram didn't do the exact same thing. In his entire career until his next-to-last game at Bama, Ingram lost a grand total of one fumble. And yeah, Lacy got plenty of shite from fans on boards about the fumbles until he cleaned his up. Yeldon has lost more fumbles this year in less than a season that Ingram lost in his entire three year career.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 1:16 pm to
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No, Ingram didn't do the exact same thing. In his entire career until his next-to-last game at Bama, Ingram lost a grand total of one fumble.


Both of those fumbles were game changers.

Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:31 pm to
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Yeah, but his fumble last year against aTm helped get us beat, and his fumble this year against aTm almost helped us get beat. He doesn't just fumble...he fumbles in big games against big opponents in critical times and places on the field.



Those are just two examples though. His other fumbles haven't been in big games.
Posted by thefloydian
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 2:55 pm to
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No its not.


Yes, it is. Especially if you fumble on the goal line. Some of you guys need to quit being such defensive homers. He is a great back, but he fumbles a little too much for my taste.
This post was edited on 11/21/13 at 2:56 pm
Posted by LockDown
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:34 pm to
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Trent will always be my favorite player but T.J. is right close behind him. Just when you think the play is over, suddenly he reappears 3,4,5 yards ahead. Amazing guy, and for those of you who think Drake is better - let's just trust our great coaches to make that decision.


Just curious, are you in a cult?
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 5:35 pm to
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Just curious, are you in a cult?


Whoa.
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