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re: Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?

Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by BamaFanInAthens
Athens, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/21/13 at 6:18 pm to
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Just curious, are you in a cult?

No, I'm not in a cult. Nothing wrong with appreciating and respecting the players and coaches.
Posted by LockDown
Member since Feb 2010
1321 posts
Posted on 11/21/13 at 8:27 pm to
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Nothing wrong with appreciating and respecting the players and coaches.


As far as they act in a respectable manner, I agree. Yet I do not believe open discussion concerning their decisions is to be considered disrespectful. It is part and parcel of being a fan of the game.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 1/2/14 at 10:00 pm to
Hey remember when I said Yeldon will always be a huge liability as long as he was a chronic fumbler and everyone got all mad?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 12:57 am to
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BamaGradinTn
Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?
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In our 3 biggest games(TAMU, OM, LSU), he has dominated.


Yeah, but his fumble last year against aTm helped get us beat, and his fumble this year against aTm almost helped us get beat. He doesn't just fumble...he fumbles in big games against big opponents in critical times and places on the field.


Oh yeah...I remember it well. I agreed with you 1,000%.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 12:58 am
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5150 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:05 am to
Yeldon is a great rusher, but I think he is more of a change-of-pace back than an every down back. That's why he appeared better last season than this season. He doesn't have the durability or the power to be used every single play. He doesn't hit the hole with the intensity of Ingram, Richardson, Lacy, Henry, or Drake and he has a tendency to fumble at critical moments in the game. Drake should have been given more carries in the Iron Bowl and Henry looked poised to steal the starting job tonight.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:06 am
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:10 am to
The biggest problem is and quite frankly I said this when we were "not recruiting him" in fall 2011. He is a tremendous talent but he is unfortunately the worst combination of an all purpose back and a tall RB. People have called him and Drake a RB duo but they really do not compliment each other at all. Yeldon and Henry do though. Yeldon is 6'2" which means he takes all kind of unnesscary hits that 5'9" Trent Richardson for instance would not. But unlike Henry he still has the frame of an all purpose back in that he is lanky and wiry. These are not good combinations for a physical inside runner.

Yeldon is definitely a 5 star dynamic play maker but he isn't a power back at all. See Auburn stopping him when they knew he was getting the ball. The best play of his career the 2012 LSU Screen shows that Yeldon could be a deadly full time WR. But there is something about him I guess it is his body/frame but he never gets YAC. And he fumbles when even Trent and Mark wouldn't.

Yeldon is a great back but we see now why he wasn't the top priority for the staff in the 2012 class. Not until they lost out on Gurley/Marshall/Williams/Shell/Davis/Jones.
Posted by Broken Coyote
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:11 am to
Yeldon could be a great back and everyone sees the flashes. But he runs too tall. He stands up straight when he hits the line, which takes away his power and opens the ball to defenders. If there is a hole and no one hits him, he can scoot. I have screamed about this all year. And running so high in a crowd opens the ball to the defender. Tonight he fumbled because he ran flush (Tall, up, ball exposed) into his own lineman and the ball came out. He did the same thing against A&M two years in a row.

Do any of you remember Steger during the Stallings years? He had tons of natural talent, but ran too tall and had fumble problems, so he sat while less talented backs played. That's who Yeldon reminds me of.
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:12 am to
Yeldon is a really good back, but he's only the third best RB on the roster.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:16 am to
I don't remember that guy in particular but Yeldon looks so stiff when running the ball. He looks like a WR taking Wildcat stats. Prothro looked more shifty than Yeldon does. Yeldon is the complete full circle from Kenneth "Dancing with the Stars" Darby in that regard.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5150 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:18 am to
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Yeldon is the complete full circle from Kenneth "Dancing with the Stars" Darby in that regard.


In Darby's defense, he played with some abysmal offensive lines. '06 stands out as the absolute low point. Remember Chris Capps?
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:20 am to
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I think he is more of a change-of-pace back


Bingo. He is great when backing up a power guy like Lacy. However it's pretty obvious that he just doesn't have what it take to be the every down back. That's why the staff's stubborn devotion to him is mindboggling. Let's assume that Henry didn't emerge until Bowl practice....Yeldon still didn't deserve to carry the load as much as he did over Drake or even Fowler. If there was ever a year to spread the ball around and really take advantage of our depth, this was it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:21 am to
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LittleJerrySeinfield
Does it feel like there isn't enough love for TJ Yeldon?
Yeldon is a really good back, but he's only the third best RB on the roster.


I wonder if Funky will weigh back in on this discussion. It would be interesting to know if he still thinks Yeldon is "a stud that is all business" and "dont see how you can say hes not already to elite status."
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5150 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:22 am to
I still maintain that Fowler is criminally underused in short-yardage situations. The guy is a tank.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20762 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:25 am to
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I still maintain that Fowler is criminally underused in short-yardage situations. The guy is a tank.


No doubt. I have to assume that it has to with his knee injury but that didn't seem to slow him down against A&M or his blocking ability. The only time he gets the ball is the predictable PA pass on the goal line. It would normally be baffling how he just disappeared from the run game....but when you look at Nuss' track record it really isn't.

I have zero doubt that he gets that yard against AU.
This post was edited on 1/3/14 at 1:26 am
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:34 am to
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Bingo. He is great when backing up a power guy like Lacy. However it's pretty obvious that he just doesn't have what it take to be the every down back. That's why the staff's stubborn devotion to him is mindboggling. Let's assume that Henry didn't emerge until Bowl practice....Yeldon still didn't deserve to carry the load as much as he did over Drake or even Fowler. If there was ever a year to spread the ball around and really take advantage of our depth, this was it.


Granted Drake is the same type of back as Yeldon (though he has a gear few backs of any type have). But persistent rumors of his "antics" seem to be hindering his development. Hence his relegation last year to being Blake Sims blowout Zone read partner. His legendary "bans" from twitter (have to be from the coaching staff). And his lack of concrete carries this year and whole games he missed because of the dreaded violation of team rules which apparently can be anything from "Didn't bring a number 2 pencil to RB meetings" to "Gang Rape Gangnam style".

And sadly with Fowler he is never going to be what he was. He is unfortunately right at that weight range that any significant injury that leads to any weight gain means the loss of his athletic ability. Henry will have to watch this going forward, especially with his height.

And at the same time, after Yeldon's fumblitis last year I think Saban was hesitant to turn to another Freshman RB unless they absolutely had to. After all, Henry dominated Spring pre-injury and they were probably cautious bringing him back from that. Which means he probably lost key reps with the Ones (both in summer skelly and practice reps)

But Henry provided the true RB role that both Yeldon and Drake cannot provide. That while yes Henry is taller than both of them and is as big as Fowler he is a different animal altogether. He definitely deserved that 5 star rating. He despite his height is big enough that he is in no way lanky or wiry like Yeldrake. But at the same time he is more athletic than even Fowler was at his peak (and to those who forget Fowler pre injury was a big physical freak as well). Fowler and Henry both have bursts that no man their size should have. Sadly Fowler never got his back post that injury in 2012. But he is still athletic enough for a monster fullback.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:44 am to
I would be absolutely shocked if Yeldon is starting next year. Henry is so much better than him it's stupid.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:49 am to
I think we may see Yeldon "start", but Henry plays more during the game. I could see a three headed monster in the backfield.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:56 am to
Yeldon should have been benched for fumbling tonight for the 70th time. He doesn't deserve a starting job.

I hear a rumor that Drake was held out because he cussed out one of the coaches. Pretty sure i did the same thing tonight.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:57 am to
I said frick you Nuss 100000000000x tonight. I expect an email from Saban tomorrow..I'll let you guys know what it says.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 1/3/14 at 1:58 am to
Goodnight Fellas and RT...WE still have the #1 recruiting class and studs all over the team. LSU fans are mad because we aren't going ANYWHERE. frick THEM and frick AUBURN.
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