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re: Defense problems
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:15 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:15 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Eddie Jackson has been in the system 2 years now. His problem last night was not his youth. He knew what to do. He just didn't do it well.
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Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:24 pm to CrimsonTideMD
I'm just glad DGB doesn't play for mizzou any longer
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:34 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
I'm not saying force Kirby out. Hell, no. He's can stay forever.
But it's pretty common for things to become stale after a while -- especially when you work with your mentor. Saban basically hears his own ideas parroted back to him.
Why?
Because he taught Smart everything he knows.
If you're trying to adapt and learn new things, you can't do it in that environment. You have to mix things up a bit.
Bring in a innovative defensive mind. Probably will be someone we've never heard of or that's down on his luck, put him at a position on the defense and tell Kirby to start exploring his options. Then, when he takes a head coaching gig, move the new guy into his old spot.
Or something completely different. I don't know. Just think things are a bit stale on the defensive side of the ball.
But it's pretty common for things to become stale after a while -- especially when you work with your mentor. Saban basically hears his own ideas parroted back to him.
Why?
Because he taught Smart everything he knows.
If you're trying to adapt and learn new things, you can't do it in that environment. You have to mix things up a bit.
Bring in a innovative defensive mind. Probably will be someone we've never heard of or that's down on his luck, put him at a position on the defense and tell Kirby to start exploring his options. Then, when he takes a head coaching gig, move the new guy into his old spot.
Or something completely different. I don't know. Just think things are a bit stale on the defensive side of the ball.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:43 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
You think Muschamp would come on board as a position coach?
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:53 pm to CrimsonTideMD
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You think Muschamp would come on board as a position coach?
Would Champ be any different than Kirby?
He does have more experience outside the Saban bubble, but he's still a Saban protege. He certainly didn't learn shite about defense from Mack Brown.
I think whoever fills the currently filled role of DC will be a young up and comer we've never heard of before.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:54 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Let Kirby have the secondary all to himself, let Boom have the LBs and that would leave Saban to just oversee it all without being directly tied to one position group.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 12:56 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Smart and Saban are coming dangerously close to group think mode. They've been together so long, there's a good chance no new ideas are being tossed around out there. As good as Smart is, it might be best for him to move on. Best for his development as a coach and best for Alabama.
Time for fresh blood and ideas on the defensive side.
Things have changed.
this post is retarded, and you should feel bad.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:07 pm to Funky Tide 8
I don't want to lose Kirby and certainly don't think he should be asked to look around but the point is valid. CNS himself has commented on how staffs can get stale and new blood is needed from time to time. That could possibly be accomplished with a new position coaches but a new position coach probably wouldn't be really able to challenge CNS/Kirby when it comes to defensive philosophy
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:08 pm to sarc
Our defense has been great this year for the most part. Marshall was just dialed in last night, and Gus took advantage of Eddie Jackson. The scheme isn't what hurt us last night, it was our DBs not executing.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:09 pm to Funky Tide 8
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this post is retarded, and you should feel bad.
Oh? PLease explain oh wise one.
Because people that stay at one job, in the same position never get stale and set in their ways -- especially if their bosses trained them.
frick, I'm not saying Kirby has fallen off or is a bad coach, but I think it would be best for him and the team if he seriously considers taking a head coaching gig this off season.
It's time.
New ideas are good things -- not bad. Just look at the offense.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:11 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Because people that stay at one job, in the same position never get stale and set in their ways -- especially if their bosses trained them.
what proof do you have of any staleness with Kirby?
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but I think it would be best for him and the team if he seriously considers taking a head coaching gig this off season.
I just don't understand how it would be "best" seeing as how our defense has been great for the most part this year.
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New ideas are good things -- not bad. Just look at the offense.
I just think you are talking out of your arse on this.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:17 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The scheme isn't what hurt us last night, it was our DBs not executing.
Completely agree
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:33 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Me too.
Tell me who we can get to prepare for AU, Arky, LSU TAMU, State, and OM as they are all a bit different attacks. And all have different mentalities.
You want to stop TAMU your gonna need to prepare for an air raid.
ARKY is downhill running.
LSU is downhill running with a pro style pass attack.
State is a lot like AU but just a bit more balanced.
OM is a speed and quickness team.
AU is a spread running team with big wr's. That plays fast.
We can shut down all but one and get our arse whipped by just one and suddenly we cant play d any more.
Not to mention that we have been the walking dead all season in every phase. IF we can get past Mizzou, Im really excited for the break and a chance to get healthy for the playoffs.
Tell me who we can get to prepare for AU, Arky, LSU TAMU, State, and OM as they are all a bit different attacks. And all have different mentalities.
You want to stop TAMU your gonna need to prepare for an air raid.
ARKY is downhill running.
LSU is downhill running with a pro style pass attack.
State is a lot like AU but just a bit more balanced.
OM is a speed and quickness team.
AU is a spread running team with big wr's. That plays fast.
We can shut down all but one and get our arse whipped by just one and suddenly we cant play d any more.
Not to mention that we have been the walking dead all season in every phase. IF we can get past Mizzou, Im really excited for the break and a chance to get healthy for the playoffs.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:53 pm to tt54l32v
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Im really excited for the break and a chance to get healthy for the playoffs.
Yeah, we need some rest
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:55 pm to CrimsonTideMD
frick it man we in the championship. They doing something right. We could be Auburn.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:59 pm to Tide or Die87
I've said it once, I'll say it again. Barry Odom.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 1:59 pm to tt54l32v
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Tell me who we can get to prepare for AU, Arky, LSU TAMU, State, and OM as they are all a bit different attacks. And all have different mentalities...
We can shut down all but one and get our arse whipped by just one and suddenly we cant play d any more.
I hear what you're saying.
One thing that's really hurting us is the lack of a "lock down corner" like we've had in years past.
This post was edited on 11/30/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:22 pm to CrimsonTideMD
Cyrus shut down his side last night so what your saying doesn't really hold water. The problem is that everybody knows what we are going to do on defense. They know we are going to man up so they will take chances down field.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 2:41 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Our defense has been great this year for the most part. Marshall was just dialed in last night, and Gus took advantage of Eddie Jackson. The scheme isn't what hurt us last night, it was our DBs not executing.
Exactly. Bama forced several 3rd and longs only to have an execution error in coverage. For Bama D to shut a team down, they need the long pass to be very low percentage. Auburn's WRs were winning almost every single battle and Marshall was dead on passing.
Posted on 11/30/14 at 4:23 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:also, ive never seen marshall that on target before. EJ got burned a few times and sylve did a good job coming in, but when a qb is putting it in the perfect spot and the receiver is bigger than you, DB is going to lose every time. Also, it didnt help that we gave them the ball so many times with turnovers, we let them run 30 more plays than us, and way more were passes than I would have expected. We just had a bad game in the secondary combined with them having an almost perfect pass game.
quote: The scheme isn't what hurt us last night, it was our DBs not executing. Completely agree
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