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Posted by chattabama
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:03 pm to
We made LB John Houston's top 13. So there's that.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:11 pm to
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I don't really expect him to ever have this type of season, but I'd love to see Lacy put up like 1600 yards on the ground with 12-14 TDs. Part of the reason I don't see him ever really doing that is Rodgers.


it's a bit of a give and take with Rodgers at QB. on one hand, defenses cant load up against the run. but on the other hand, Rodgers will make sure he pads his own TD stats. Lacy will probably put up a ton of yards but with a disproportionate amount of TDs. Another factor will be the TE play of the packers. if they can find a TE who is a red zone threat that teams have to respect, Lacy might benefit from that as well. If you can take another LB out of the box to deal with a flexed out TE, you gotta get the ball to Lacy.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:12 pm to
Chris Nee on FSU247 claims that SBB and Ridley are no longer a package deal. TIFWIW.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:21 pm to
I don't think Rodgers would pad his stats. He's never been that type of guy. As a Saints fan, I'd expect it from Brees, but not Rodgers.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I don't think Rodgers would pad his stats. He's never been that type of guy.


he seemed like that type of guy last season while he was still playing. Maybe i was just hoping Eddie got every TD, but i remember Rodgers calling his own number lots of times. I think it was part of his problems with the McCarthy.

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I'd expect it from Brees


no doubt.

but I consider Brees to be #1 stat padder and Rodgers #2. Alternatively, IMO, the Mannings are the best about showing love to their RBs.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:31 pm to
I also find that Brady is completely bipolar when it comes to stat padding vs showing love to the RBs.

Sometimes it feels like he just wants the stats.

Other times it feels like he doesn't care and has made it his mission to make his backs have huge games.

Must have something to do with the Earth's alignment with the sun.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:36 pm to
I am not worried about the D at all. LB we have recruited like no other under Saban and the talent is there. Yes injuries or slump may play a part but the talent is there and not concerned. The DBs are the biggest question mark but I like our choices there then previous years where there were concerns. Mostly because the front 7 will take a lot of pressure off them this year, plus the talent(potential) is definitely there. The DL is the best talent and depth assembled under Saban and as mentioned will take a lot of pressure off the DBs. Our DBs in my opinion will have stats that rank nationally by season end but because the pressure I think we will bring to QBs which will force bad throws will boost them.

In regards to Coker who knows but arm strength would have been nice the past 2 years. I saw way to many underthrown balls on deep runs that would have been TDs. Also until we fully utilize our talent of WRs and TEs we will really never know how effective our QBs will be.
Posted by bexie2013
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:59 pm to
How long is Eddie Jackson out for?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:18 pm to
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but I consider Sean Payton to be #1 stat padder


FIFY.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:25 pm to
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How long is Eddie Jackson out for?
nobody knows. He is running, so that's a good sign
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:39 pm to
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No position in football has evolved as quickly and fully as tight end. It demands versatility from players, requiring both downfield receiving and strong blocking abilities.

College programs pursue prospects who can exploit the seam on one play and then spring a big run by laying out a linebacker on the next. The 2015 class has athletes who can do both, though it's difficult to find a complete tight end at the high school level.

Many are wide receivers with tremendous size who will transition during the next phase of their career. Others are punishing blockers who haven't tapped into their potential as pass targets.

Multiple playmakers flashed impressive skill sets at The Opening, an annual July football showcase held in Beaverton, Oregon. Bleacher Report was on hand for the event while gaining familiarity with other recruits through game film.

Here's our breakdown of the top 10 tight ends in this recruiting cycle.



This article is part of Bleacher Report's CFB 200 Recruiting Rankings Series. The overall rankings are based on the 247Sports composite system, which takes into account every recruiting service's rankings. The positional rankings also correspond with those composite scores. Stay tuned over the next two weeks as we take an in-depth look at college football's stars of tomorrow.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:40 pm to
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6. Will Gragg, Dumas High School (Dumas, Arkansas)

Stock: Up

247Sports Crystal Ball Prediction: Ole Miss (48 percent); Arkansas (43 percent)



Will Gragg opened eyes in Oregon, displaying big-play capabilities that weren't frequently featured in a run-heavy high school offense. He managed to lead the team with 321 yards on 31 receptions last season, hauling in five touchdown passes, per Hootens.com.

Given his explosiveness and soft hands, Gragg can greatly improve upon those yards-per-catch statistics in college. He doesn't display much wiggle in the open field but adjusts well on the fly and looks comfortable when split out wide.

Gragg, the younger brother of former Arkansas tight end and 2013 Buffalo Bills draft pick Chris Gragg, isn't the dynamic threat who can challenge strong defenses deep. Still, his physicality and short-area quickness keep opponents off guard and open things up for him on intermediate routes.

He routinely finds space underneath and can shake off tacklers for extra yards. The 6'4", 245-pound prospect appears college-ready from a physical standpoint and does a great job of catching the ball in stride.

"I want to be a balanced tight end who can make big plays at different parts of the field," Gragg said at The Opening. "I've been working on my game to get ready for what's coming. I think there's been a lot of improvement."

That balance will be achieved when he spends more time lined up inside as a blocker. Though his technique is relatively raw, Gragg has the ability to bludgeon defenders in the rushing attack.

He's the kind of athlete who understands where improvements must be made in order to excel. A high ceiling is in place for a player who is ready to blossom as a pass target in years to come.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:40 pm to
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3. Hale Hentges, Helias High School (Jefferson City, Missouri)

Trending: Even

Committed to: Alabama



Hale Hentges brings a lot to the table at tight end, including top-tier athleticism and tenacity as a blocker. He offers flexibility to any offensive game plan and is dependable as an every-down player who can line up along the line or out wide.

This scheme versatility is quickly apparent on tape, as the 6'5", 230-pound playmaker spends his snaps attacking different levels of the defense. Hentges shines in downfield and intermediate routes alike, presenting serious matchup issues at the high school level.

Collegiate linebackers should be able to keep up with him, especially in the SEC, but his size will always give opponents fits. Hentges augments this advantage with tremendous leaping ability, which puts him in position to pull down highlight-reel receptions without sacrificing body control.

He developed as a pass-catcher during his sophomore season, securing 43 receptions for 500 yards and seven scores. Hentges enjoyed a spike in production last fall, catching 61 passes for 940 yards and 15 touchdowns.

His most impressive efforts occur while fighting for contested balls, as he shields defenders and adjusts in midair. Hentges should be able to maintain these abilities while adding weight to his frame in college.

This is a necessary development because, while he already shows effective blocking tendencies, Hentges isn't yet equipped with the physical build necessary to overpower opponents early in a rushing play.

He already flashes proper technique, getting underneath a defender's chest plate with quick hands, and collegiate weight room experience will further fuel those efforts. His opportunity for an expanded role may not come until he's an upperclassman in Tuscaloosa, but expect Hentges to earn time in the spotlight as a dynamic tight end.

Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:44 pm to
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nobody knows. He is running, so that's a good sign


I think Saban said they would like to have him back in practice to an extent by fall camp. That would give him 2 full months to get back for the SEC schedule which is what matters. Gives Tony and Marlon a chance to get acclimated. Those 3 out there would be really promising to me. Jackson on an island with the big SEC receivers like Treadwell, North, and D.Williams and let Marlon and Tony make the base starts.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:48 pm to
The problem with that is Jones/Sylve probably see the field over Hump. TB is definitely gonna start, imo. Not being an EE will hurt Hump a bit, unless he has a huge camp.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Can you feel it? College football is right around the corner.

We've gone through the various media days for each conference, with coaches and selected players telling us how excited they are about the upcoming 2014 season. Some preseason all-conference teams and league-standings predictions have been made, and goals are being set for number of wins as well as division and conference titles and maybe spots in the first-ever College Football Playoff.

Preseason top-25 polls are the next step. The Amway Coaches Poll, which is the old USA Today poll but with a new sponsor, is set to release its initial rankings on Thursday, and The Associated Press will follow on Aug. 17 with its preseason media poll.

Ours is ready right now.

Here's Bleacher Report's Top 25 heading into the start of fall camp. The rankings are a projection of how teams will fare in the 2014 season based on returning players, incoming talent that is expected to contribute and offseason events which may have an impact on how a team will perform this fall.

Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:57 pm to
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4. Alabama Crimson Tide

Opener: Aug. 30 vs. West Virginia (in Atlanta)

Alabama has arguably the best coach in the game and is once again loaded with talent bolstered not only by previous standout prospect hauls, but also by this year's top recruiting class. But even with all that going for the Crimson Tide, there's one main reason why they're not ranked higher to start 2014:

The quarterback situation.

With AJ McCarron graduating after three years at the helm, it was known well ahead of time that Alabama would be starting someone new in 2014. But to this point, just who that will be remains a mystery. There's senior Blake Sims, who's been waiting for his chance, as well as redshirt freshman Cooper Bateman, and then came the offseason addition of Florida State transfer Jacob Coker.

Whoever wins the competition will probably do fine, but without knowing who it will be or how he'll operate the offense, it's hard to predict anything higher for Alabama at this point.


Good. Good.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:04 pm to
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Alabama has arguably the best coach in the game


There's seriously no debate.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
12964 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:23 pm to
Hump got that 5 star rating mostly because of size and speed. It will take him some time. Remember him struggling on the camp circuit a bit.
Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
3059 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:29 pm to
Jones may start opposite to brown for a couple of games but I think marlon is physical enough to get by on covering a number 2 receiver and using his speed to not get beat. We shall see how it shakes out with the different depth charts we see but I think marlon will come in and start opposite to brown. Just my confidence in humphrey's skill set and the probability of jones getting beat on slant routes every play, not having the top speed to cover deep well, and his mental mistakes (iron bowl) marlon should get his opportunity off of Cyrus' mistakes and lesser physical upside unfortunately
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