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re: Birmingham Mayor Threatens to Steer Athletes from UA and Auburn if Bill Passes
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:32 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:32 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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I think your link is broken.
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:33 am to TideCPA
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The city of Birmingham is made up of a small, monolithic voting bloc which comprises a relatively small portion of the metro area. The mayor of Birmingham's only job is to take the tax money generated by suburban workers and distribute it via nepotism while trying to do just enough to not drive existing businesses away.
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:10 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:It's 2024. You're not going to make up for historic racism with current racism. It doesn't work that way. Companies like yours (assuming your anecdote has no other extraneous factors) that hire based on race rather than meritocracy will suffer for doing so, just as companies hiring less qualified "diverse" candidates over more qualified "non-diverse" candidates will suffer similarly. The latter scenario is inarguably occurring at a much higher rate in 2024 than the situation you described.
I'm not confused at all. With the history of Alabama, the south, and the country as a whole, many black men and women were passed over for jobs and promotions that were more than qualified because the person making the decision on said job or promotion preferred to have a white person in the position. Let's not forget that history of redlining, underfunding to HBCUs, lending discrimination, etc. There is a laundry list of unjust practices against the black community. Familiar with the Tuskegee Experiments. We aren't 70 years removed from George Wallace standing in the door way making his passionate speech of upholding segregation. Hell, while I was with an investment bank in Atlanta just last year (2023), I saw a licensed (Series 7 and 66) young black guy with 5 years of industry experience get passed over for an analyst position for a white kid straight out of college with not even an SIE to his name, let alone work experience. So yeah, we get passed over while more qualified all the damn time.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:14 am to TideCPA
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It's 2024. You're not going to make up for historic racism with current racism. It doesn't work that way. Companies like yours (assuming your anecdote has no other extraneous factors) that hire based on race rather than meritocracy will suffer for doing so, just as companies hiring less qualified "diverse" candidates over more qualified "non-diverse" candidates will suffer similarly. The latter scenario is inarguably occurring at a much higher rate in 2024 than the situation you described.
The idea that in 2024 that anything resembling a majority of businesses or government positions are going to underqualified white males over minority candidates is laughably out of touch with reality. For any anecdote he has I've got more. The fact is that there is explicit racial bias in hiring/promotion in the US in 2024 and it isn't to benefit white guys.
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:19 am to TideCPA
If you think that unfair hiring practices aren't taking place currently, you're being not genuine or wilfully ignorant. If Navy Federal Credit Union is currently being sued for lending discrimination, do you honestly think that hiring discrimination really isn't as persistent? Be serious
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:34 am to MontyFranklyn
Have you read Race and Economics by Walter Williams? Most of the discrimination happened with the aid of gov't, all of the so-called remedies occurred once Democrats in the realized the value of the black vote. That last point Malcolm X emphasized in his most famous speech.
Even AG Gaston charged relatively high interest rates due to clientele, and it wasn't bc of skin color obviously.
Even AG Gaston charged relatively high interest rates due to clientele, and it wasn't bc of skin color obviously.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 11:35 am
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:43 am to RollTide4Ever
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Have you read Race and Economics by Walter Williams
Great book. Uncle Sam's Plantation by Star Parker is another good one.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:52 am to MontyFranklyn
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If Navy Federal Credit Union is currently being sued for lending discrimination, do you honestly think that hiring discrimination really isn't as persistent? Be serious
I just read an article about this, and this stuck out:
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A spokesperson from Navy Federal said CNN’s analysis was not an accurate reflection of their lending practices because it did not account for other factors, such as credit score, cash in the bank, and relationship history with the lender.
If CNN's analysis didn't account for those things(the most important factors in whether or not a loan will be approved or not) then what exactly did they account for?
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:57 am to Funky Tide 8
That's a flat out lie because the basis of the suit is that black borrowers were turned down that's had similar or better scores than white borrowers.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:09 pm to MontyFranklyn
Well, until it's proven to be a lie in a court of law it's an accusation.
If it turns out to be true, then NFCU should be punished.
But don't try to uphold one side of an argument with an accusation portraying it as a truth.
If it turns out to be true, then NFCU should be punished.
But don't try to uphold one side of an argument with an accusation portraying it as a truth.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:20 pm to MontyFranklyn
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That's a flat out lie because the basis of the suit is that black borrowers were turned down that's had similar or better scores than white borrowers.
I guess all that is being sorted out in discovery, but is there any proof of this other than what is coming from one party? I sincerely don't know, just heard about this when I read your post.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:21 pm to beeko
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When exactly was the last time you were in Huntsville? The downtown area has been revitalized with new Hotels, apartments, restaurants, and trendy micro-breweries. The Lowe Mill area is becoming a new hot spot to buy houses/real estate now that the subsidized housing has mostly been removed off Governor's drive. Campus 805 is thriving as well as Stove House. Mid-city has new restaurants, bars and activities for young professionals. New subdivisions and apartments all over. The list of good companies to work for in Huntsville is too long to list. Name a better place to live in Alabama than Huntsville...it isn't even close. Huntsville was named #1 place to live in the USA. You are either trolling or haven't been to Huntsville in a long time.
Huntsville is an interesting city because a large part of the metro area population actually lives in the city itself whereas most of the Birmingham metro area lives outside of the Birmingham city limits.
I think that speaks to the city's ability to be inviting and avoid people deciding to commute from the country-side.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:21 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
Like these players care at all what the mayor thinks
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:27 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Huntsville is an interesting city because a large part of the metro area population actually lives in the city itself whereas most of the Birmingham metro area lives outside of the Birmingham city limits.
I think that speaks to the city's ability to be inviting and avoid people deciding to commute from the country-side.
I'm from Huntsville. I would love for you folks to move here as this place is being overrun by Barners.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:38 pm to cdur86
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I'm from Huntsville. I would love for you folks to move here as this place is being overrun by Barners.
My brother works on the arsenal up there. Lives in Madison. Auburn alumnus.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:40 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:The current players, probably not. If the message spreads and is consistently preached from now on, it will have long standing impacts in years to come. There are other great universities in states that are more accepting of blacks and minorities than the state of Alabama.
Like these players care at all what the mayor thinks
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:44 pm to auisssa
Guys. Have you ever tried to convince a 2 year old that they really don’t want that cookie? It’s a losing battle. You have to just let them pitch their fit.
In todays society, you have the ‘parents’ handing out cookies just because they are tired of the tantrums. Then the ‘kids’ blame the ‘parents’ because they got sick from so many cookies. And then some complain that little Johnny got two cookies (even though Johnny’s daddy makes the cookies) and little Susie got a peanut butter cookies while others only got a sugar cookie.
This is our society in its most elementary description.
In todays society, you have the ‘parents’ handing out cookies just because they are tired of the tantrums. Then the ‘kids’ blame the ‘parents’ because they got sick from so many cookies. And then some complain that little Johnny got two cookies (even though Johnny’s daddy makes the cookies) and little Susie got a peanut butter cookies while others only got a sugar cookie.
This is our society in its most elementary description.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:45 pm to MontyFranklyn
quote:Unfair practices are taking place, and at a very wide scale. It's called DEI. The incidents you reference are the exception, not the rule, in 2024.
If you think that unfair hiring practices aren't taking place currently, you're being not genuine or wilfully ignorant.
This is from a recent lawsuit against Harvard, whose graduates sit at the highest levels of government and business, both of which employ armies of DEI workers whose job is to ensure outcomes like this:
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:50 pm to Panthers4life
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the one that closes in few months? best enterainment venues such as? Orion? and then what? Bridge street? the same place that can't keep business there?
Sounds like you think Huntsville sucks. You should probably move.
Just don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:58 pm to JIB
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My brother works on the arsenal up there. Lives in Madison. Auburn alumnus.
Not surprising. UA really put themselves in a bind by having UAH as part of the school system. All the STEM resources go there and Birmingham before it goes to Tuscaloosa. There is no reason for UA to not have a research center in Huntsville like AU has. They can even combine it with UAH to not piss them off if they'd like.
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