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re: Barnett is transferring
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:50 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 9/30/16 at 11:50 am to SoFla Tideroller
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But I do think the timing and circumstances of his decision speaks volumes about Barnett. Given that, and what I saw of him when he played, it's my opinion that he's never going to amount to much.
I wish him well, but put me in this camp.
Whether because he is getting terrible guidance from his parents, or he himself is responsible for his choice, the decision to leave mid-year shows neither self-confidence nor leadership.
Interestingly, you can say the same thing about his on the field performance this year. When faced with a pressure situation, he seemed to lose composure. It may have been because he was scared to get hit or it may have been that he was scared to make a mistake, but it really doesn't matter. A quarterback simply MUST have confidence and a certain level of swagger to be successful and at this point in his life, Barnett just doesn't appear to have it. Maybe he finds it somewhere else, but I've really got my doubts.
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Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:57 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Barnett will a damn good college QB
Could be, but there's no evidence to support that opinion at this point.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:05 pm to CapstoneGrad06
quote:How many of them are at huge programs and are as young as he is and get beat out by a true freshman?
Maybe so. But history suggests that QBs that transfer don't live up to the expectations placed on them. Some do. And maybe he's one of those. Good luck to him. I'll just never agree with the timing.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:06 pm to Bham Bammer
quote:Amd there isn't any to support the opinion that he won't be damn good.
Could be, but there's no evidence to support that opinion at this point.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:13 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Amd there isn't any to support the opinion that he won't be damn good.
Sure there is. His performance (although limited) to this point as not been "damn good." He throws a pretty ball when given a huge, comfortable pocket, but he also didn't seem to have very good presence. Furthermore, he was beaten out by a true freshman. Lastly, he ran away from competition.
All these things would point the needle in the direction of "not damn good" so far. Could change, obviously, as I allowed for in my last post.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:32 pm to ReauxlTide222
right now when the game is in doubt he looks like a deer in the headlights. That is all we have to go on and it supports him having future issues. I bet he will overcome them. Plus it was noted that he had a lot of TO's during spring ball.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:34 pm to Bham Bammer
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Sure there is. His performance (although limited) to this point as not been "damn good."
He's finished! Put a wrap on his career.
Your points are weak, and nothing that a few more quarters of football couldn't fix. You act like he's a junior with 15 games under his belt.
And the "he transferred so he ain't got no chest" argument is ridiculous. You're so admirable for sitting your entire career and never getting a chance at your dream, the NFL. But what a guy you are! Have fun in sales.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:38 pm to mrbroker
I don't agree that he looked like a deer in headlights. He needs better pocket awareness. He's never played college football before this year
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:42 pm to ReauxlTide222
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He's finished! Put a wrap on his career.
Your points are weak, and nothing that a few more quarters of football couldn't fix. You act like he's a junior with 15 games under his belt.
And the "he transferred so he ain't got no chest" argument is ridiculous. You're so admirable for sitting your entire career and never getting a chance at your dream, the NFL. But what a guy you are! Have fun in sales.
You aren't real smart, so I'll try to make this simpler for you.
1. I've conceded TWICE now (which you either ignored or lacked the ability to comprehend) that his career isn't done, that his sampling is limited, and that he certainly could improve.
2. NOTHING he has done so far would suggest he is headed to a "damn good career." Plenty of things suggest otherwise, and you can continue to ignore/disregard those things if you choose.
3. He sat for four games, then tucked tail and ran. Nobody is suggesting you sit for four years and wait. But when you pack up and leave after four games, that tells me A LOT about your desire to compete. And if he only needed a few more quarters to fix his issues, why not stay? I'm sure he wouldn't gotten that before the year was out.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:51 pm to Bham Bammer
quote:Wow. We're talking about a QB possibly being a good college quarterback for his final, what, 4 seasons? And you "concede" that his career isn't over. You, man, you are gracious fellow.
I've conceded TWICE now (which you either ignored or lacked the ability to comprehend) that his career isn't done
quote:I figured I was working with someone with the ability to understand how talent/improvement/experience work. I guess not. You're right, we've seen nothing at all that points to him having a good career. I see NOTHING in him.
NOTHING he has done so far would suggest he is headed to a "damn good career."
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:53 pm to Bham Bammer
quote:Mother of god.
And if he only needed a few more quarters to fix his issues, why not stay?
You realize he uh...he battled and didn't win the job, right? He isn't the starter. Why not stay? HE WASN'T THE STARTER.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 1:55 pm to ReauxlTide222
Dude, you've had three posts now to show me something that shows he is headed toward a good career, and all you did was throw out the prove a negative argument.
Tell me, what leads you to think he is going to be a damn good QB, besides the fact that he is tall and had 5 stars by his name?
You call me out for having weak points, but in three posts you've brought NOTHING of substance to the table. If you just "have a good feeling" about him, fine. Just say that. We'll all watch and see who's right when he's playing on Friday nights for San Diego State in a couple years.
Tell me, what leads you to think he is going to be a damn good QB, besides the fact that he is tall and had 5 stars by his name?
You call me out for having weak points, but in three posts you've brought NOTHING of substance to the table. If you just "have a good feeling" about him, fine. Just say that. We'll all watch and see who's right when he's playing on Friday nights for San Diego State in a couple years.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:01 pm to Bham Bammer
What leads you to believe that Hurts will have a good career?
At this point in their careers, we have to project. How many quarters has BB played? And you're asking me to prove why I think he'll have a good career? He looks like a really good QB to me. His issues are all VERY correctable. Im using my ability to see shite, and project what will happen later down the line.
Obviously I could be wrong.
At this point in their careers, we have to project. How many quarters has BB played? And you're asking me to prove why I think he'll have a good career? He looks like a really good QB to me. His issues are all VERY correctable. Im using my ability to see shite, and project what will happen later down the line.
Obviously I could be wrong.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:02 pm to Bham Bammer
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We'll all watch and see who's right when he's playing on Friday nights for San Diego State in a couple years.
Aaaaand there it is. You just don't like him.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:09 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Aaaaand there it is. You just don't like him.
No, I'm making a prediction on the level of school he ends up on. Like you said, the NFL is his goal. You think he's going to transfer into a place with other highly-rated guys again, and risk not getting the job? No way. He's going somewhere that he knows he can be the man. Cal or Arizona is about the highest level I see him at, but most likely a group of five. See, you have to make a prediction based on the limited information and knowledge that you have. Right?
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:14 pm to Bham Bammer
Cal never puts out good QBs. Yeah, that's where he should go.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 2:16 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Cal never puts out good QBs. Yeah, that's where he should go.
If the depth chart is clear, I'm sure he'll strongly consider it.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
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His issues are all VERY correctable.
Uhhh, you think those mechanics of his are "very correctable ?"
Those mechanics alone will keep him out of the NFL, and no they will not be easily corrected. Actually I dont think they will ever be corrected.
There are many, many, reasons BB lost the competition to a true freshman. Most of which are very visible when you watch him compete, but even if you can't identify those problems... seeing how he has handled adversity, and how quickly he quit on his teammates really should tell you all you need to know about BB.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:41 pm to PowHound
Posted on 9/30/16 at 3:51 pm to PowHound
You took away literally the exact opposite message that was intended in that video. And he doesn't need to be good in the NFL to be good in college.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 3:53 pm
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