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The Other Side... Colorado six months after legalization..

Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:54 pm
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:54 pm
FWIW...So far the moral fabric of America remains un-tainted...

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Six months in, Colorado’s marijuana shops are mushrooming, with support from local consumers, weed tourists and federal government taking a wait-and-see attitude.

Tax dollars are pouring in, crime is down in Denver, and few of the early concerns about social breakdown have materialized – at least so far.

“The sky hasn’t fallen, but we’re a long way from knowing the unintended consequences,” said Andrew Freeman, director of marijuana coordination for Colorado. “This is a huge social and economic question.”


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In the first four months, marijuana sales amounted to more than $202 million, about a third of them recreational. Taxes from recreational sales were almost $11 million.


Crime is down, revenue is up... Who woulda thunk it?...
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23985 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:56 pm to
the time is now georgia...be the first of the bible belt..its such an easy decision...just need a politician who has some balls.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 6:59 pm to
I live in Colorado and it still astounds me why this is so important to so many.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25656 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:03 pm to
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I live in Colorado and it still astounds me why this is so important to so many.

I'm almost 60...Don't smoke or really want to but it's a no brainer to increase revenue & decrimalize a fairly victimless crime... jmo...
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23985 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:07 pm to
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.Don't smoke or really want to but it's a no brainer to increase revenue & decrimalize a fairly victimless crime


exactly. not only does the smoker benefit the state does as well
Posted by JRDawg77
Member since Oct 2013
707 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:22 pm to
Yes. Let's give the government more money to waste.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49232 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:23 pm to
Legalizing weed increases state profit and lowers crime? No way
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
23985 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Yes. Let's give the government more money to waste.



if I'm giving money to a government, i'd rather it be state than federal.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49232 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 7:32 pm to
Meh I wouldn't mind buying legal weed
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 7/4/14 at 9:32 pm to
Never understood why people are so anxious to use additional taxes as a justification for legalization of something illegal. When I see more taxes, I see additional dependents being made.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 6:43 am to
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This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 6:50 am
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:18 am to
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Never understood why people are so anxious to use additional taxes as a justification for legalization of something illegal.


That's understandable, but my biggest reason for supporting legalization is that I don't see marijuana's popularity going away and I think doing away with (or at least lessening) the black market is a good thing. I'll admit that I'm a bit inconsistent on this point because meth is popular and I don't support legalizing it.

However, in general, as a small government person I support people's rights to do unhealthy things to themselves without threat of arrest or penalty.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 8:52 am to
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I live in Colorado and it still astounds me why this is so important to so many.

I'm almost 60...Don't smoke or really want to but it's a no brainer to increase revenue & decrimalize a fairly victimless crime... jmo...



Pretty much agree with this; it's no worse that alcohol but both are not healthy IMHO. Then I again I support freedom for adults to make choices so I'm fine with it as long as its not promoted as part of a healthy lifestyle.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14160 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:05 am to
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However, in general, as a small government person I support people's rights to do unhealthy things to themselves without threat of arrest or penalty.


I agree with this point entirely however the flip side of this is we shouldn't have to pay to support people that ruin their lives by doing unhealthy things to themselves...but we do.

Everyone wants the freedom to do whatever they want but they don't want the responsibility that comes with it.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:08 am to
Amen, couldn't agree more, squatch. Trust me, I'm personally consistent in my views on this.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27294 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 9:39 am to
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Everyone wants the freedom to do whatever they want but don't want the personal responsibility that comes with it


No doubt,freedom and responsibilty are 2 things the don't coexist very well at least in this country.

Don't have a big problem with legalization in Colorado but lets get a better snapshot than 6 months to prove the "benefits" of this legislation.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:35 am to
As a person who holds a concealed firearms license, I cannot consume any controlled substances without committing a felony and losing my right to own firearms.

As far as the data goes for colorado, there just isn't enough to judge one way or the other. I haven't seen anything on drug-related DUIs or car accidents (my biggest concern) or any others intended consequences. The tax revenue for the state is nice (except for that I don't like using taxation as a positive for almost anything), but it is a drop in the bucket.
Posted by cantseefade1
Barzoom, Mars
Member since Mar 2013
638 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 10:53 am to
I also wonder about the effects on the jail population since marijuana arrests have likely decreased to almost zero. The only question I have concerning complete legalization is how to deal with the DUI issues.
Posted by Nicolae
Member since Dec 2012
1880 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 11:23 am to
I'm going to need to see some stats on how many of these people have condemned themselves to an eternity of burning in the fiery pits of Hell before I make any kind of decision.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49232 posts
Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:56 pm to
Crime rate is down too and it's far safer then cigarettes
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