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re: Individual games that cost your team a National Title

Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:21 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:21 pm to
In recent memory:

1992 - Cotton Bowl loss to Notre Dame

1998 - (potential) loss to t.u. if Mississippi State beats Tennessee in the SEC Title game

2012 - either one of Florida or LSU (lost to both by a combined 8 points)
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:31 pm to
"What time is it in Dallas?"

"10-9!"

UGA beat Texas in the 1984 Cotton Bowl 10-9. Texas was ranked #2 at the time and was beating UGA pretty handedly (9-3) with about 4 minutes left. UGA was 1 of 13 on third down and had crossed the 50 twice in the first 56 minutes of the game. UT forced another 3 and out and UGA punted the ball...and Texas fumbled it. 3 plays later John Lastinger ran around the right side and dove at the pylon scoring to tie the game and the PAT put UGA on top to stay. Had Texas managed to win that game they'd have been national champions....Miami beat #1 Nebraska later that night.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:35 pm to
Alabama has cost UGA at least one other natty....2012. UGA and Bama were the best 2 teams in the country at the end of the season...had UGA managed to score at the end of the game (time ran out on a completed pass to the Bama 4 yard line) UGA would have boat raced Notre Dame in the same manner Alabama did.....


2018 and 2023 were also pretty damn close to Alabama denying UGA a natty. Lot of variables in 12,18 and 23 but in all 3 UGA had a pretty good shot at a natty had we beat Alabama....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:36 pm to
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UGAs defeating Texas in the Cotton Bowl, most likely, cost Texas the NC that year.



What time is it in Dallas?

10-9!

GO DAWGS!
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:38 pm to
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UGA
2012 loss to Alabama in SECCG



At the time I didn't think colllege football could get much more painful BUT....had we won that game Mark Richt probably stayed at UGA a lot longer and Kirby might have gone elsewhere.....silver linings and all that LOL....
Posted by AwgustaDawg
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Pitt had already been named national champs. Up through 1964, the national champs were awarded prior to the bowl games.


Hell Notre Dame claims a bunch of Natty's when they did not even play in a bowl game.
Posted by Murph4HOF
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 1:53 pm to
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Hell Notre Dame claims a bunch of Natty's when they did not even play in a bowl game.
ND played in a Rose Bowl then said frick It to all bowl games until the polls started using bowl results in the finals rankings.
Posted by spslayto
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:03 pm to
2011 LSU wins title if...

1) LSU does not play and/or beat Oregon
2) Oklahoma State doesn't lose to Iowa State
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:07 pm to
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1983- lost to Texas in the regular season. Game did not affect our bowl slot. We would have played Michigan in the Sugar Bowl either way. But had Auburn not lost to Texas in Week 2, we would have undoubtedly been 1983 National Champs (should have been anyway)


Miami beat the #1 team in their bowl game.

You'd have been #2.
Posted by AUTiger789
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Miami beat the #1 team in their bowl game. You'd have been #2.


Miami was #5 going into that bow game. Auburn not winning the ‘83 title is considered by many to be the greatest skrewjob in the history of CFB.

The only reason Miami was able to jump that high up the rankings is because all the teams at the top had just one loss.

An unbeaten ‘83 Auburn team would have undoubtedly won the championship that season.
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Miami was #5 going into that bow game.


And they beat the #1 team which leapfrogged them all the way up. Still would have happened.
Posted by AUTiger789
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:21 pm to
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And they beat the #1 team which leapfrogged them all the way up. Still would have happened.


It was ridiculous for that to happen, but the only way it was justified was because all teams in question had 1 loss.

Miami’s one loss was to Florida (who AU beat)
Nebraska’s one loss was to Miami
Auburn’s one loss was to Texas
Texas’ one loss was to Georgia
Georgia’s one loss was to Auburn
Florida’s two losses were to Auburn and Georgia.

Those were the Final Top 6 teams. Had Auburn defeated Texas in Week 2 and been undefeated there is no way a team that was unbeaten with wins over 3 of the Final Top 6 (and 4 of the Top 8 if you go down to #8 Michigan) would have been leapfrogged by a 1-loss team who’s loss was to a team Auburn had soundly defeated.

It’s already ludicrous it happened in the first place but the loss to Texas is part of the problem. If Auburn wins that game in Week 2 we’d have been a unanimous National Champion.
Posted by Fan1958
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:26 pm to
Don't know that it cost them a "national title" but the '75 Aggie team ranked #2 lost to Arkansas 31-6 and most likely cost the Ags the opportunity to play for a national title.

Hogs weren't bad, ranked 18 at the time, went on to win the SWC title and smoked UGA 31-10 in the '76 Cotton Bowl.
Posted by Bamachief
Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:32 pm to
Alabama

2008 loss to UF in SECCG. Team didn’t show up in sugar bowl after that loss. Ranked #1 going into that game and would have won BCS against OU

2014 loss to OSU in CFP. Alabama boat races Oregon if Kiffin doesn’t forget Derrick Henry.

2023 loss to Michigan, I’d give a maybe cost us a NC win. Not sure we could contain Penix the way UM did, but possibly.





Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:33 pm to
Well, Bama is only like 311 games away from being undefeated. I'm sure that would have garnered a couple more NCs had they all gone the other way.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:41 pm to
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ukraine_rebel
LSU - 1969 Ole Miss

Win that one they're undefeated and go to Sugar Bowl more than likely to play Arkansas or even go to Cotton Bowl to play Texas.




That was a great game. Showed the will of Archie. We were in fact still invited to play #1 Texas in the Cotton, but the Cotton Bowl committee mysteriously reneged on 9-1 5th ranked LSU and unceremoniously said 'no, never mind, you're 9-1, but we want 12th ranked 7-3 Notre Dame.' The LSU players then turned down an Astro-Bluebonnet invite. Meanwhile, Ole Miss and Archie then humbled Arkansas in the Jan. 1, 1970 Sugar - 27-22. The same Arkansas that lost 15-14 to #1 Texas a month earlier.
Posted by hogminer
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Cam cost Arkansas their best chance to win the SEC


Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:49 pm to
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In recent memory:

1992 - Cotton Bowl loss to Notre Dame


I don't count 1992 as we would have still finished behind an undefeated Bama team who just knocked off #1 Miami.

A win against 5th ranked Notre Dame would not vault us over.
Posted by Windy City
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:51 pm to
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Don't know that it cost them a "national title" but the '75 Aggie team ranked #2 lost to Arkansas 31-6 and most likely cost the Ags the opportunity to play for a national title.

Hogs weren't bad, ranked 18 at the time, went on to win the SWC title and smoked UGA 31-10 in the '76 Cotton Bowl.


I don't count this one either, as we got thumped by an unranked Southern Cal squad right after in the Liberty Bowl.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 2:52 pm to
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Individual games that cost your team a National Title
theballguy
Anyways 11/5/11 loss to LSU ...

heh heh not really though.




That was an absolute travesty. The BCS 'Human Poll' portion of the voting controlled by the Coaches was undeniably influenced by the lobbying for the 3rd place SEC team to get in over a 12-1 Big 12 Conference champion who destroyed Oklahoma by 6 touchdowns in the Conference championship game. Some had this team (OSU) as #2 going into that game.

In fact the publicly available record of the BSC Coaches 'Human' poll actually states clearly and lists in black and white which coaches moved 3rd place SEC ala. into the BCSNCG over 12-1 Oklahoma State, who they actually bizarrely and mysteriously and magically DROPPED ''''BELOW''' ala in the poll.

Even though Oklahoma State was the #2 team according to some of the coaches, enough of the rest of the coaches changed their vote and moved 3rd place SEC ala. OVER 12-1 #2 Big 12 Champion Oklahoma State.

Truly and comically (yet monumentally unfairly) astonishing.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 2:54 pm
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