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re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/19/13 at 10:58 pm
There was a reason cabling hadn't been put on yet that didn't have anything to do with structural stability. Won't say more than that but it was an intentional choice.
Ultimately though even with the cabling, the report found the structure was unsound, ie there's a good chance this could have ha...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/19/13 at 10:49 pm
[quote]They made the first to tiers the same size mistakenly believing that to be stronger.[/quote]
I really don't get where this keeps coming from.
This was not a contributing factor cited by the Linbeck group or the FEMA case study later on.
It's also not accurate. Stack heights fell i...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/19/13 at 12:10 am
[quote]7,000 trees a year cut specifically for a bonfire is a frick ton. I can't imagine the logistics behind that.
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Workforce of hundreds 1, sometimes 2 days a week over 5 or so weeks. (Hazy on that last number)
The environmentalists always bitched but we were cutting down trees that...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/19/13 at 12:07 am
I was in a chat room when it fell and used to have a timestamped log. Lost that hard drive though. :(
The first wave of articles that next day had the time right. After that the press releases the school put out went with the time of the 911 call. It's totally trivial but always found it a bit ...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 11:56 pm
Interesting bit of trivia : The collapse wasn't at 2:42. It was almost right at 2:30. The 911 log starts at 2:42 and for reasons unknown they went with that as the official time....
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 11:32 pm
Oh THAT was always done, but limited to the reunion class.
It's going to be interesting to see what happens down the road when those 50th reunion classes had 10,000 people instead of 1,000...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 11:29 pm
If those are the dorm logs on the outside I don't think we cabled those on. You can't see the wiring on the upper tiers because of scale.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/epFodaD.jpg?1[/img]
You can see the wires we used on the right....
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 11:20 pm
[quote]How did they secure the trees to make the "bundles"?[/quote]
Each log was tied with thick baling wire to four other logs.
But the primary force at work was gravity....
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 11:12 pm
There was some safety oversight but not not a ton. And the administration suffered the same faults as the students. It's actually an interesting study on groupthink and institutional blindness.
Initially stack (the construction phase) had limited hours but in the last few weeks it went from 6PM-...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 10:55 pm
Oh I'd believe it. :) Knew several Muster Committee people over the years. I actually grew not to like the campus ceremony much. The tone was too somber, funeral like. The local musters are more what it should be like imo....
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 10:52 pm
The idea of a return to campus is a pipe dream. I had friends who were on the committee who looked into the idea. Never happen without insurance and insurance wasn't expensive, it was impossible. No firm who could cover it would touch it. (And really can you blame them?)
I wish they got to expe...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 10:23 pm
I was at every Muster from 1996-2005. This is the first I've heard of people answering for someone who happened to be in the same class year. My friends who are around your age also never heard of it. I think this might just be you. ;)
Faxis - a group of students now builds a Bonfire off campu...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 10:19 pm
[quote]Is this the part where old army and new army get to argue? I like that part[/quote]
Yes, when did you guys start answering for people who happened to be in your class?...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 10:12 pm
[quote]Also, folks answer "here" if they're a member of the same class year as the deceased.[/quote]
You youngins have really got to stop inventing new traditions....
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 9:01 pm
[quote]What is the significance of saying "here"? I saw that aggies did that in the comments of the youtube videos as well. [/quote]
We have a ceremony each year with a roll call for the deceased. People answer "here" when someone they knew's name is called. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muster_(T...
re: 14 Years ago today, the darkest day in Aggie history
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 8:56 pm
[quote]Looking the the placement of the change, it looks like people may have left a coin in the direction of where they're from as there are very few in the western part of the pole. The notches in the center pole point in the direction of the fallen students' hometowns.[/quote]
It's nothing tha...
re: 14 Years Ago
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/18/13 at 8:44 pm
[quote] The '99 Bonfire that fell had a first and second stack that were both of almost equal size, they did this thinking it would make it stronger when in fact the opposite was true. That is why the collapse was so catastrophic and without warning, just too much weight.[/quote]
I don't recall t...
re: 14 Years Ago
Posted by NoAC lives on 11/17/13 at 11:49 pm
[quote]It got to 60+ feet one year didn't it? [/quote]
You're 50 feet short. They started limiting height in 1970 after it hit 110 feet. The limit was pretty constantly ignored. In 99 it was around 60....
re: What can you tell me about Columbia?
Posted by NoAC lives on 5/10/13 at 12:09 am
[quote]Pretty pedestrian, would not count on it. Do you have other options?[/quote]
*This* isn't even an option yet. Just the only out of state job I'm looking at at the moment so I wanted to check out the area. Sounds like I'd miss a few things but generally like it there....
re: What can you tell me about Columbia?
Posted by NoAC lives on 5/9/13 at 10:08 pm
Realizing this is a huge long shot, but any sort of dance scene there?...
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