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Posted on 10/11/16 at 7:59 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Lorenzo has definitely not even come close to proving that. He might leave, but I think it would be much wiser for him to stay depending on how he finishes the season.
He gone. Some NFL GM or DC is going say "give me that boy for 60 hours a week and I'll turn him into a QB eating machine" and today's shortcomings will be blamed on the fact he only gets the NCAA mandated 16 hours of coaching a week.
I would say he'd be a great late round pickup, but he probably won't make it to the late rounds.
The commentary will be "Well he played behind Leonard Floyd and Jordan Jenkins, so he didn't get as much experience... but Wow what a prospect"
He gone.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:00 pm to VADawg
Ansah also got much better as a senior. He didn't leave early either. Carter hasn't proved to anyone he is trending in the right direction. He might be picked early, but I think he has to show drastic improvement for that to happen.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:01 pm to deeprig9
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He gone. Some NFL GM or DC is going say "give me that boy for 60 hours a week and I'll turn him into a QB eating machine" and today's shortcomings will be blamed on the fact he only gets the NCAA mandated 16 hours of coaching a week.
I would say he'd be a great late round pickup, but he probably won't make it to the late rounds.
The commentary will be "Well he played behind Leonard Floyd and Jordan Jenkins, so he didn't get as much experience... but Wow what a prospect"
He gone.
Yeah, I think you make some great points there. That probably is what will happen. I'm hopeful he'll stay and develop here to help himself be a guaranteed pick in the first couple rounds.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:05 pm to deeprig9
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Ansah didn't have a broken neck on his medical record
It wasn't supposed to be a comp between Ansah and Jarvis as pro prospects, just a point of reference. He had 4.5 career sacks at BYU and went 5th overall. He had a decent senior year, destroyed the combine, and skyrocketed up the draft boards.
This happens with pass rushers more than anyone else. Carter going in the 1st round if he tests well is not out of the question.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:06 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I'm hopeful he'll stay and develop here
Why develop here, when he can develop in the NFL and get paid to be developed? We aren't talking about a QB.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:10 pm to deeprig9
Here's the thing about 5 Star recruits.... you enter your agreement with them knowing that if they do well, they gone early. That's why you have to stack them up on top of each other, and use the previous success story to pile on the next one.
We aren't used to signing a half dozen 5 stars every year. We, as a fan base, aren't used to this way of thinking.
Kirby is going to change that. He knows Saban's Secret. He's going to implement Saban's Secret right here in Athens.
We aren't used to signing a half dozen 5 stars every year. We, as a fan base, aren't used to this way of thinking.
Kirby is going to change that. He knows Saban's Secret. He's going to implement Saban's Secret right here in Athens.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:11 pm to VADawg
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It wasn't supposed to be a comp between Ansah and Jarvis as pro prospects, just a point of reference. He had 4.5 career sacks at BYU and went 5th overall. He had a decent senior year, destroyed the combine, and skyrocketed up the draft boards. This happens with pass rushers more than anyone else. Carter going in the 1st round if he tests well is not out of the question.
How much of Carter's shortcomings are effort though? Remember when he insinuated that he was ok being 2nd string since he would have fresh legs?
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:34 pm to RedFive
I dont know, but I think he has played better than most. He was getting pressure on Trubisky, and has has sacks in back to back SEC games now. Lets hope he gets sacks every game now.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 2:18 am to djsdawg
I'm not saying the NFL doesn't look at potential, but you have produce at the college level to get drafted high. If Carter wants to leave to be a late round pick sure it's possible, but it would not be very smart. Usually guys that are leave early going in the first 3 rounds.
Keith Marshall was a much better player than Carter prior to his injury, DOMINATED the NFL combine and is barely hanging on to a roster spot.
Jamarcus Russell had a good junior season and took LSU to the SEC championship game his final season. He produced in college. His production was no worse than a guy like Stafford's, but he just didn't put in the work after getting drafted.
Keith Marshall was a much better player than Carter prior to his injury, DOMINATED the NFL combine and is barely hanging on to a roster spot.
Jamarcus Russell had a good junior season and took LSU to the SEC championship game his final season. He produced in college. His production was no worse than a guy like Stafford's, but he just didn't put in the work after getting drafted.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 7:20 am to VADawg
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This happens all of the time, especially with pass rushers. Dion Jordan ring a bell?
Dion Jordan was more productive than Carter and stayed his senior year.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 8:18 am to Crowknowsbest
If Carter leaves after this year he will make roster, but it will likely be as an undrafted free agent. There are a lot of guys who get drafted on measurables and combine numbers, but they also have a decent highlight film to show people. Carter doesn't have that. For most GMs, late in the draft is all about value and so they might take a flyer in the 6th or 7th, but most will figure he'll be available to sign without wasting a draft pick.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:56 pm to Crowknowsbest
Jordan had 5 sacks as a senior. Solid, but not eye popping.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:00 pm to VADawg
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This happens with pass rushers more than anyone else
Because te NFL (unlike college) is a specialists league. Zo would be getting paid to rush the passer and that's about it. No run stopping, little to no pass coverage. Your job is simply to produce pressure and sacks against their best lineman.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 1:35 pm to tylerdurden24
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Your job is simply to produce pressure and sacks against their best lineman.
Something Zo isn't even doing against college talent.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 3:58 pm to crispyUGA
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If Carter leaves after this year he will make roster, but it will likely be as an undrafted free agent. There are a lot of guys who get drafted on measurables and combine numbers, but they also have a decent highlight film to show people. Carter doesn't have that. For most GMs, late in the draft is all about value and so they might take a flyer in the 6th or 7th, but most will figure he'll be available to sign without wasting a draft pick
This. Late round draft pick assuming he tears it up at the combine. When was Corn Washington drafted. 6th? 7th round?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:01 pm to tylerdurden24
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Because te NFL (unlike college) is a specialists league. Zo would be getting paid to rush the passer and that's about it. No run stopping, little to no pass coverage. Your job is simply to produce pressure and sacks against their best lineman
Agree to diaagree. If you can't stop the run, then you are a situational player.
If you are situational only, then you don't have as much value. Do situational sack artists have successful careers? Absolutely because sacks are the 2nd most important Stat in the league. But Carter isn't getting the QB in college. And his physical traits are average for the NFL. The average sack specialist is built lIke Carter if not better
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:26 pm to VADawg
Jordan was phenominal at stopping the run.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:33 pm to VADawg
Carter will leave despite the fact he's too small to play in the league and doesn't like contact all that much.
"more sacks we get, the more we get paid"
remember that quote? He's definitely leaving. Also, are we sure about Sanders? He seems pretty small for the league and not particularly athletic. Hell, Rambo is a free agent right now and he is bigger.
"more sacks we get, the more we get paid"
remember that quote? He's definitely leaving. Also, are we sure about Sanders? He seems pretty small for the league and not particularly athletic. Hell, Rambo is a free agent right now and he is bigger.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 4:37 pm to jodeaux
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"more sacks we get, the more we get paid"
2 sacks in 2 seasons isn't getting anybody paid, except for maybe the OL of the opposing team.
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