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re: Who gets fired first?

Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:23 pm to
My gut all along has said Kirby was a bad hire, so I'll go with CKS.
Posted by samson'sseed
Augusta
Member since Aug 2013
2070 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:30 pm to
Kirby.

I don't think the alumni will be too happy with the upcoming 5-7 and 0-12 finishes.

Kirby is out in 2.

Richt will turn Miami around to challenge for the ACC title but will never win it because everybody knows he can't win the big game.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30548 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:47 pm to
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0-12 finishes.


and this is why everyone wishes you were gone

idiot
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

It's easy to say "well miami has a shorter leash from their admin than we do", but what's gonna happen if richt wins ~70% of his games there? Then what?


Well, I don't see him winning 70% of his games at the U. He's 4-4 with 4 weak wins.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:10 pm to
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I don't see him winning 70% of his games at the U. He's 4-4


well certainly 8 games is far enough into a tenure to know how it will end
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:17 pm to
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0-12



Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:25 pm to
Richt
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

well certainly 8 games is far enough into a tenure to know how it will end




Yeah, because I'm only basing it on his first 8 games.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:32 pm to
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Well, I don't see him winning 70% of his games at the U. He's 4-4 with 4 weak wins.

Two of his losses came down to the wire. ONe a blocked extra point. Another because they were unable to recover a gimme fumble on the goal line in last seconds.

I realize you aren't comparing MIami and UGA, but even though the records are the same, Miami is the better team right now. They'd be about a 7 point favorite if we were playing them this weekend, i believe..
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:34 pm to
quote:

well certainly 8 games is far enough into a tenure to know how it will end

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Yeah, because I'm only basing it on his first 8 games.


What are you basing it on, then?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86467 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:37 pm to
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Yeah, because I'm only basing it on his first 8 games.


You claimed richt wouldn't achieve something over the course of his entire UM career, and all you gave to support that was his first 8 games there. You can see how that could be misleading.

Miami has had 2 spectacularly bad coaches in a row, and the one before that took one of the greatest collections of talent ever assembled on a college field to a title and not too much after that. Richt is undoubtedly a better coach than shannon or golden, and probably coker as well. Shannon and Golden were fired because they sucked and barely won over half their games, so the argument of "miami has a shorter leash" is misleading because they were basically forced to make a move. My point was that we don't really know how short miami's leash will be if richt duplicates his time here over there, in that he wins 9 or 10 games every year but no titles.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:54 pm to
Jones, Stoops, Mason, Freeze. I can't see why Missy State still has Mullen. Guess they know nobody else wants that job.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:01 pm to
Oddly enough, Da U gets good when there is a lot of illegal cash flooding Miami, and it fades when the illicit cash does.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Oddly enough, Da U gets good when there is a lot of illegal cash flooding Miami, and it fades when the illicit cash does.



Isn't that true with most, if not all schools?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63950 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Missy State still has Mullen. Guess they know nobody else wants that job.




Mullen is a good coach, he is the best that miss st is ever going to have. He seems to be happy there too. i don't think he could ever get fired unless they found him in bed with a live boy or a dead girl.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14177 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:19 pm to
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What on earth, other than your hopes and dreams, has convinced you that Kirby will be just fine?


Because I assume that a) he is a pretty good defensive coach after being the DC for some of the best defenses in the country and b) he did learn a few things about how to manage a program. Also, I have to assume that since everyone else in the NCAA thinks Pittman is one of the best...that he's also a pretty good coach. Chaney? Ehh...even if he's average that'll be okay.

I don't believe these guys forgot everything and became sniveling idiots because they came to Athens.

Also, since I was a little pup it was a given that there was a transition period between new staffs. Part of that was due to new schemes and gameplans...but the other part was dealing with players that signed up with the old guy and may not like you very much. The concept of giving the new coach time to "get his recruits in" wasn't invented this year as an excuse for CKS.

I don't believe these concepts changed drastically because the new guy is now at UGA.

Also - Smart wants what we all want. Big receivers, strong and powerful linemen and a run first offense. BUT, he is also a good enough recruiter to get the players to fill these spots. I also like the way he's starting now by keeping our big young OL off the field to begin building a squad of red shirted maulers - it shows foresight.

I'm not giving him a free pass....but he's a new coach so he should at least get a year or two to get used to his new britches and start building his team. Chaney/Pittman/Smart don't seem to all be on the same page but there are alot of variables at play. We'll know alot more by this time next year.

You guys just need to reach up your skirts to see if you still have a pair after all of this whining and drama....geez.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 4:22 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 4:32 pm to
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You guys just need to reach up your skirts to see if you still have a pair after all of this whining and drama....geez.


Whining and drama? because we make a statement like "We have a lot more talent than South Carolina." That's the one that got me in trouble today.

The frustrating thing is, if you make a statement that some posters don't agree with, they chase you all over the board and call you stupid...or tell you you should be a Tennessee fan. Funny thing is...after the Florida game (In which I said I thought I saw positive progress) the poster that told me I wasn't a Georgia fan, and I should be a Tennessee fan, was posting criticisms about Smart.

ETA
In fairness, I know I have frustrated some others with my stubborness in my opinions.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 4:55 pm
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 5:50 pm to
Maybe, but Miami has had cash influxes (cocaine in the 70s and 80s, and fraud in the 90s-00s) like virtually no other locale. Generally speaking, most schools don't have people paying tuition in cash, for example.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:17 pm to
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The concept of giving the new coach time to "get his recruits in" wasn't invented this year as an excuse for CKS.


Yea,but you frickers use it ad naseum to defend CKS.Funny,didn't hear much about it with McElwain,Mahlzan,Saban or even CMR but with Kirby defender its SOP.


quote:

Because I assume that a) he is a pretty good defensive coach after being the DC for some of the best defenses in the country and b) he did learn a few things about how to manage a program.


He was DC for one of the greatest defensive minds in CFB.He was also knee deep in 5 star talent.
You think Bama misses him one bit on the sidelines? You don't think Bama fans aren't estatic with Pruitt?

The only thing Kirby has proved he can do is recruit. Other than that I don't assume anything
about his coaching abilities.

Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 6:17 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 6:22 pm
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