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re: What the beginnings of anarchy looks like: Unionization approved
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:46 am to FinleyStreet
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:46 am to FinleyStreet
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How the hell can students unionize when they're not employed by the university?
That's the argument that the NLRB upheld: students that compete in athletics are, in fact, employees and should be given the same consideration.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:49 am to tylerdurden24
Of course the one college program in Chicago is the one involved in trying to frick everything up
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:50 am to IT_Dawg
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Where are these kids going to get the money to pay taxes on their scholarships? They can't afford to even go out to dinner says most of them. What about students on the Hope, Merit, etc. won't they be considered employees too since they are on scholarship? They help the University profit too. I really hope this actually happens.
That's the big thing everyone seems to be glossing over. Everyone is looking at the benefits and completely neglecting to realize how shite works in the real world. If you get paid a wage, you get issued a W2. If you get issued a W2, you report that in taxes. If 600+ student athletes are being handed W2s, the athletic depts are no longer tax exempt. When ADs are shelling out tons of cash to the IRS, see how long they opt to keep their doors open.
The athletes that aren't big names and don't receive some sort of monetary compensation beyond their scholarships may be lucky enough to get money back on their return. But the big name guys... hope they're prepared to pay out the nose for any and all income they receive (I have a feeling a few will end up in jail for tax evasion simply due to ignorance as to how the process works).
ETA: Odds that these kids invest their money in an accountant or, at least, in Turbotax?
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 9:52 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:35 am to tylerdurden24
Precisely why I hope this happens. It won't effect anyone other than Northwestern, but the 17,18,19,20 y/o kids will realize what a sham Unions are and why they are not needed. Hopefully that will help get them removed permanently, EVERYWHERE!
frick Unions and frick Todd Grantham too.
frick Unions and frick Todd Grantham too.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 10:55 am to tylerdurden24
I listened to an interview with Ramiga Huma(?)
(he's a former UCLA player who started this thing)on 680 and he stated that players were already taxed on stipend checks they recieve...had no idea that was the case.
He was also stated that eventually they would collect union dues and also talked about lifetime
medical insurance,workmans comp and some other stuff that was pretty far fetched.
(he's a former UCLA player who started this thing)on 680 and he stated that players were already taxed on stipend checks they recieve...had no idea that was the case.
He was also stated that eventually they would collect union dues and also talked about lifetime
medical insurance,workmans comp and some other stuff that was pretty far fetched.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 11:13 am
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:08 am to IT_Dawg
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frick Unions and frick Todd Grantham too.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:13 am to DawgCountry
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frick Todd Grantham
Posted on 3/27/14 at 11:36 am to Damn Good Dawg
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frick Todd Grantham
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:05 pm to RD Dawg
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He was also stated that eventually they would collect union dues and also talked about lifetime medical insurance,workmans comp and some other stuff that was pretty far fetched.
Where do most of these kids get this entitlement mentality. I don't just mean these football players either. It seems like most young people(I'm not that old myself,33) these days feel like the world owes them something. Life sucks sometimes and you don't always get what you want. Companies across the US make millions of dollars off the backs of employees that don't have near the perks these players have. Playing college football is a damn privilege. If you don't like the way things are, tough. Don't fricking play.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:51 pm to FlatwoodsForester
Its bad parenting and lack of a hard assed father in the household.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:05 pm to Charlestondawg
How will this affect scholarships and recruiting? 
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:17 pm to AirDawg
Deeprig, you have a text from me. See you at the Roadhouse tonight.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:37 pm to deeprig9
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On that token, why wouldn't a player like Todd Gurley just go to the Canadian or European league, get paid, be a badass, then enter the draft when eligible? . . . On that token, why wouldn't a player like Todd Gurley just go to the Canadian or European league, get paid, be a badass, then enter the draft when eligible?
Free room and board, free pussy, not having to live in a cold climate. Oh, and they wouldn't "be a badass" in Europe - they'd be irrelevant. If you want to be a badass in Europe, drive F1, or failing that, play soccer. Football is basically a non-entity.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:46 pm to tylerdurden24
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That's the argument that the NLRB upheld: students that compete in athletics are, in fact, employees and should be given the same consideration.
It will be interesting to see how most Universities' mandatory diversity hiring programs will change things, then.
Your starting Left Tackle - Nguyen Ap Le! All 5'6" and 130 lbs of him. A fullback with Muscular Dystrophy? ADA compliant, baby!
And if it goes to state schools....no more freebies for players. They'll be state employees subject to anti-corruption statutes and all that fun stuff.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 7:44 pm to FlatwoodsForester
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You seriously have no clue what you're talking about with this statement.
You'd be surprised how much of a clue I have with that statement.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 9:46 pm to Charlestondawg
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Unions and greed will lead to the downfall eventually. Just like they did to Detroit.
you mean like what happened to Krogers and UPS?...no wait..thise companies are doing fine unionized...
nevermind
Posted on 3/28/14 at 9:26 am to deeprig9
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The anthropology school is under the Franklin umbrella (arts and sciences) I believe. The Forestry school, is important because Timber is one of the biggest industries in the state, but in general, outside of GA, or CA, a forestry degree is worthless. Hell, even in GA or CA, a forestry degree is worthless unless you are going to work at the family farm and Granddaddy said you had to get your Warnell degree or you couldn't get your slice of the pie.
Forestry degrees aren't worthless but certainly there are more lucrative paths. Oregon, Washington, and maybe even Maine have more timber than GA or CA though.
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