re: Todd Grantham on Louisville...or more shot at CMR?

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We shouldn't have to score 40 points a game to pull out wins by the skin of our teeth.

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This sums up the entire reason we are better off without him. Everything else is fluff, this is the nitty gritty.

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I think it's funny that it was the offense that was his selling point on Louisville, though, not the program or the coaches or the players or history or anything else. When I hear the defensive coordinator saying that the best quality in a program is their offense, it makes me wonder about his faith in his ability to coach a defense.

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Could not agree more. This is a HUGE red flag, the new DC is coming in and the reason he wanted to move is because of a prolific offense? Why isn't he moving because of defensive potential or something?

What hear when read between those lines is "I wanted to move here, to a less competitive conference and a team with an offensive guy as HC, because that offense will completely outclass the defenses in this conference and will more effectively cover my arse when my defenders don't have a clue what the frick they are supposed to be doing".

I'll be honest though, this comment from him really feels more like TG just stroking Petrino's ego more than trying to take a shot at Richt/Bobo/UGA. I really have to read into the comments to see the slight to UGA.

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Honestly this is the same thing I got from it and I really, really dislike Grantham

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Agree with this. Grantham was definite improvement over Martinez from my perspective. We had a lot of defensive talent in 2012 and had our defense played well enough to beat Alabama in the SECCG and ND in the NC that year, Grantham would probably still be our DC and we would have been singing his praises. Still, that didn't happen and it was clear that Grantham underachieved with a talented group in 2012 and the system complexity issue did seem valid especially with they young defense we had last season.

Overall, as a dawg fan I feel pretty good about the way things worked out with Grantham getting a pay raise going to Louiville and UGA getting proven DC who had just won a NC at FSU; pretty amazing really.

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We had a lot of defensive talent in 2012 and had our defense played well enough to beat Alabama in the SECCG and ND in the NC that year,

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Say what? We gave up 350 yards rushing in the SECCG!The 2012 defense was the worst rushing defesne in UGA FB HISTORY and we had 7 guys that made NFL rosters...perhaps one of the worst DC
efforts in UGA history. CTG had nothing to do with UGA's success in 2012.

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And yes, giving up 350 rushing yards in the the SECG vs Bama was the killer. If the defense had played better we would not have been in that desperate situation at the end of that game.

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It really is THE reason we lost. If we aren't getting gashed in the run game like that, then maybe Damian Swann doesn't bite so hard on that run fake and is in position to either knock down or intercept that pass to Cooper, or more likely cause AJ to rethink throwing it at all.

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Actually, 2012 was one of our better defensive seasons. We were ranked 18th in scoring defense (6th in the SEC), 8th in pass defense (2nd in the SEC just behind Alabama) and yea our run defense was not good at #80 (9th in the SEC). Compare that to 2013 (79th in scoring defense) and 2011 (23rd in scoring defense). Still, I agree in principle that Grantham was not the answer for DC at UGA. And yes, giving up 350 rushing yards in the the SECG vs Bama was the killer. If the defense had played better we would not have been in that desperate situation at the end of that game.

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I'm with you, Dave.

Grantham's 2012 defense ranked better nationally than Bobo's record breaking 2012 offense (PPG).

There were issues. But it was not as bad as many want to make it out to be.

The biggest issues with the defense in my opinion were recruiting DBs. We just flat out failed to recruit enough numbers. We would have been tight even without attrition.
The other issue was rotating in players.
Grantham was more preoccupied with ppg than getting reps in for next season's leaders.

All of that came to a boil in 2013.
Hopefully, Pruitt doesn't make the same mistakes.

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Do you gaiz regret sticking up for him while he was cursing James Franklin, or throwing the choke sign at UF?

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Hell no. He stood up for his players against Franklin The fig. I emailed McGarity that he should shake Granthams hand for that and chew out Richt for not backing him up.
McGarity emailed me back and said all is cool.

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It was not as bad a people want make it out to be

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You're right it was far worse...we gave up almost 200 yards rushing to Buffalo,206 yards rushing to one of the worst Kentucky teams of the 2000's,300 Yards to GSU,40+ pts to a medicore team.Good God, if not for our Offense we win maybe 5 games.

Your really comparing our national scoring ranking between our offense and defense????

How bout comparing historical terms?It was the all time WORST rushing defense in UGA FB history with SEVEN NFL players...what part of this do you not understand?

How bout the offense...set all time UGA FB records for yards and points...

You should be able to get better production by accident on a defense that has 7 or 8 NFL players.No DC in UGA history had as many NFL players make the league in 1 year...and he sets all time records for one of the worst rush defenses in UGA history.

You can bitch and moan like a little girl about rushing yards.

Rushing touchdowns (and defensive scoring) is a much bigger deal.

And everyone wants to keep bringing up all of these nfl players.
Do you even know how many of those players who left in 2012 are still even on a roster?
Come fall... it could be down to 4

Not bitching about anything just giving historical facts on horrible the guy was...pretty easy to understand

Defense was horrible in '12 and even worse in '13 and Im sure you've got some great excuses for the abortion of a defense that was on the field last year.

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Come fall it COULD be down to 4

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Really?That's your logic? :rotflmao

How many made rosters last year?:So your saying our '12
talent wasn't that good because 2 or 3 might not make NFL
rosters 2 years after they left?Even you shoud realize how absurd that sounds.

,CTG is gone...thats all that matters

Definitely not one of the worst defenses UGA has ever put out there and whoever says that just has a hatred for Grantham.