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re: The new “opt out” bowls
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:58 am to lewis and herschel
Posted on 12/26/20 at 10:58 am to lewis and herschel
All I know is their scholarships and committment to the team includes the bowl games. As far as I am concerned they are quitters that turned their back on their teammates. I guess their teammates don't care because they also can see the allure of big NFL $ but it's not something I can reconcile.
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Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:04 am to SquatchDawg
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don’t know what caused this apathy about bowl games but it’s a fairly recent thing.
Coincided with the playoffs when mccaffrey and fournette quit on their teams.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:20 am to olddawg26
Makes for more interesting bowls, but the talent gap is too big for that to be an excuse.
A loss in this type of game is due to lack of preparation and motivation (in other words coaching) .
A loss in this type of game is due to lack of preparation and motivation (in other words coaching) .
Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:23 am to chillmonster
Win no excuses. Kirby... do not lose to Cincy.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:23 am to olddawg26
You don't risk millions for a meaningless game when your aren't getting paid to play.
Everyone on the team understands that and so do coaches.
Time for the team to suit up and play. No bitching allowed.
Everyone on the team understands that and so do coaches.
Time for the team to suit up and play. No bitching allowed.
This post was edited on 12/26/20 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/26/20 at 11:55 am to chillmonster
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You don't risk millions for a meaningless game when your aren't getting paid to play.
I can only think of ONE player who lost money by getting hurt in a "meaningless" bowl and he recently just signed his 2nd NFL contract that incuded a $35 million signing bonus.
The odds are infintessable that one of theae guys "losses millions" by playing in this game.
BTW,why not go ahead and extend this logic out to "meaningless" regular season games at the end of the season?
Same difference,correct?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 12:14 pm to olddawg26
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I’ve seen on message boards that “it’s the ole Texas excuse by UGA”. Where if we win, it because they don’t belong around an SEC team, and if we lose it’s because we didn’t want to be there and all of our starters are gone.
The key is to not care what other fan bases think or say. Why would you care?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:10 pm to olddawg26
The playoffs need to be expanded and done ASAP. These bowls have totally become meaningless, even more so this year, it is essentially a home game for UGA.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:16 pm to bunkerhill
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The playoffs need to be expanded and done ASAP. These bowls have totally become meaningless, even more so this year, it is essentially a home game for UGA.
Opt outs are gonna force the hand of the CFB playoffs and ESPN but obviously won't happen til after the current contract expires ('23 in believe)
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:36 pm to RD Dawg
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The playoffs need to be expanded and done ASAP.
Why? If after 13 games yore only ranked 8th you don't deserve a title shot plain and simple. Let's also not pretend that the exact same 4-5 teams that make the playoffs now wouldn't just be there with 8 teams. Why do we need to see bama against cincinnati? What does that accomplish?
The committee has gotten the correct 4 teams every time, every year. The playoffs are fine. What really needs to happen is for the big 10, acc, and pac 12 to get their heads out of their asses and get serious about having a team besides Clemson and ohio state make noise. Nobody in the world is complaining about the playoffs if there was more parity, that's not the fault of the committee or the playoffs
Posted on 12/26/20 at 1:46 pm to ThereGoesHerschel
So you're saying if Ga bama has a close game, Clemson wins the acc, Ohio state and Notre dame does well. You dont see a problem with having only 4 teams? It needs to be 6 or 8. 4 is not enough most years.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:18 pm to AllDawgCK
8 is right and what it needs to be. In 07, we were the hottest and probably the best team in the country. In 2012, we definitely deserved redemption and there was no other teams other than Bama that would beat us. In 2018, we were also pretty damn good. I say all this to prove 4 is not enough nor would it have been years ago. I’m not a fan of the participation trophies but this UGA team with Daniels is a different animal and would definitely compete with the top 8 teams in the country. Cincinnati is gonna find out. RIP
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:25 pm to ThereGoesHerschel
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Why? If after 13 games yore only ranked 8th you don't deserve a title shot plain and simple
Why not?
It happens in FCS,NFL,HS FB along every other form of popular sports.
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Why do we need to see bama against cincinnati? What does that accomplish?
Why take the worst case scenerio? BTW if we ended up 8th,you wouldn't want see us play Bama again? C'mon,we're a different team now.
There are some other great matchups out there:UF vs Clemson? OU vs OSU? A&M vs ND?
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The playoffs are fine
But they aren't
Bama gets in without winning their division?
Ohio State gets in with only 6 victories and zero impressive wins?
Sorry,its changing to eight whether you like it or not.Non playoffs NY6 bowls aren't gonna stand for being this insignificant and ESPN isn't gonna fork out $500 million+ for garbage NY6 bowls.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:30 pm to bunkerhill
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These bowls have totally become meaningless, even more so this year, it is essentially a home game for UGA.
Bowl games have al=ways been as meaningful as they are today. One or MAYBE two bowl games have always determined the National Championship. It was never a wide open question of which bowl game determined the title. you always knew going into New Years day which bowl would crown the champion.
Nothing has changed except that players now opt out of bowl games. The bowl games haven't become meaningless....they always have been.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:32 pm to AllDawgCK
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So you're saying if Ga bama has a close game, Clemson wins the acc, Ohio state and Notre dame does well. You dont see a problem with having only 4 teams? It needs to be 6 or 8. 4 is not enough most years.
I can't think of a single time in which a team ranked #5 or lower after the playoffs were set that people thought a potential National Champion had been left out.
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:34 pm to RD Dawg
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Why not?
It happens in FCS,NFL,HS FB along every other form of popular sports.
But this isn't those leagues. Can you name when a #5 or lower team got left out of the playoffs and we reasonably thought they could have won the championship?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:42 pm to DawgsLife
What do you think happens when a player opts out? Like, within 24 hours?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:42 pm to RD Dawg
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The playoffs are fine
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But they aren't
Bama gets in without winning their division?
Expanding to 8 teams would not stop that. It would make it more likely.
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Ohio State gets in with only 6 victories and zero impressive wins?
Expanding to 8 would not stop that. It would make it more likely.
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Sorry,its changing to eight whether you like it or not.
Probably within the next two years. the everybody can start lobbying for a 16 team playoff....you know like all those other leagues have that you named?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:46 pm to DawgsLife
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But this isn't those leagues
Okay? So what?
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Can you name when a #5 or lower team got left out of the playoffs and we reasonably thought they could have won the championship?
We'll never know will we?
Are you REALLY trying to tell me we couldn't compete with Bama or Clemson now?
You don't want to find out?
Posted on 12/26/20 at 2:58 pm to DawgsLife
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Expanding to 8 teams would not stop that. It would make it more likely.
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[quote]Expanding to 8 would not stop that. It would make it more likely.
Do you not understand what I was responding to?
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The playoffs are fine
I was giving clear examples of why the 4
team scenario wasn't fine.
Let's look at the Clemson run.Dont ya think they might have had a more difficult time in the playoffs had they played another round in '16 or '18? They played in a horrible conference and coasted in the conference championship game and play one tough game to get to the NC while big 10 and SEC teams beat each other up in the reg season.
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