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Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:36 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:36 am to Crowknowsbest
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I'm neither for nor against Richt. I just don't think firing him would make a difference in the big picture, which is my focus.
This is where I think the rub is with us. On one hand, you say that we don't USE the resources to run with say Bama and Auburn. On the other hand you say, Florida has nothing on us in regards to resources except somehow their AD has them winning championships and ours doesn't. So it renders Richt almost blameless. I just don't buy that.
At this point, I think Richt's ship has sailed. We will be lucky to even win a SEC Championship with him the rest of his career. A Natty is a pipe dream.
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:37 am to Dawgnational
Well aware of 2010,I'm just talking about the set of circumstances and ball bounces that have gone their way last year and so far this year.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:42 am to HinesvilleThrill
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This is where I think the rub is with us. On one hand, you say that we don't USE the resources to run with say Bama and Auburn. On the other hand you say, Florida has nothing on us in regards to resources except somehow their AD has them winning championships and ours doesn't.
Let me be clear. I think Foley more effectively manages people and resources than any AD in the country, and that shows in UF's results across the entire athletic department.
UGA doesn't have that guy running our department, and I don't think it's realistic to say we will find that guy anytime soon. Therefore, I think the Bama/Aub/LSU model makes more sense for Georgia.
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So it renders Richt almost blameless. I just don't buy that.
I just think it's difficult to assign blame when he's not on a level playing field with his peers, whether that be due to resources (AU, UA, LSU, UT) or management (UF).
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:44 am to Crowknowsbest
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This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:47 am to olddawg26
And then Jake Fromm after that... 
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:49 am to Crowknowsbest
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I just think it's difficult to assign blame when he's not on a level playing field with his peers, whether that be due to resources (AU, UA, LSU, UT) or management (UF).
I think on a game by game basis blame is appropriate. Richt should take the blame for Saturday simply because our team was flat as frick and overlooked Florida.
But overall, big picture, the administration should shoulder the majority of the blame, for the reasons we've stated many times before.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:52 am to Crowknowsbest
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Let me be clear. I think Foley more effectively manages people and resources than any AD in the country, and that shows in UF's results across the entire athletic department.
I agree he is probably the best AD in the country. And he demands excellence. And it sometimes burns people out. I'm ok with that. It gets results in a super competitive world.
McGarity has shown he is not as much of a hard arse. And he doesn't get the results.
Maybe the Bama way would work better for us. Maybe we get a new AD that is harder to please. Maybe we get a new coach that has that eye of the tiger. Richt has clearly lost that.
All things said, nothing is going to change and all us idiots are going to run to a message board to argue with each other. FML.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:39 pm to Crowknowsbest
There may be some truth to this stuff on a larger scale but c'mon guys....do you really think we lost to SC and FL this year because of UGA's culture regarding athletics?
Because what I saw were two teams with less talent that came ready to play....and we weren't mentally ready. Same as we've come to expect once or twice a year....that's on the coaches IMO.
Because what I saw were two teams with less talent that came ready to play....and we weren't mentally ready. Same as we've come to expect once or twice a year....that's on the coaches IMO.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:48 pm to SquatchDawg
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There may be some truth to this stuff on a larger scale but c'mon guys....do you really think we lost to SC and FL this year because of UGA's culture regarding athletics?
Because what I saw were two teams with less talent that came ready to play....and we weren't mentally ready. Same as we've come to expect once or twice a year....that's on the coaches IMO.
Every team has games where they come out flat. I remember Saban saying once that you really only get 3-4 good, inspired performances from your team every year. What separates great teams from good teams, imo, is the ability to win when you don't have your A game. That's where talent comes into play. Alabama, Aub, LSU, FSU, etc. lay eggs with the same frequency as other teams, but their talent level helps them survive those games.
UGA needs to do more to put themselves in a better position. That starts at the top with a commitment to helping coaches get players and keep the ones on the team on the team.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:48 pm to SquatchDawg
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two teams with less talent that came ready to play
Not sure bout SC but I wouldn't say we were more talented than UFAG by much at least
D-Line- UF (by a WIDE margine)
DB-UF
LB-UGA (even though the OLB sucked Sat)
RB-UF (when you combine depth and talent)
O-line-UGA (not huge when Andrews went out)
WR-UGA (worst game I've ever seen Bennett play)
QB-UGA (slight edge)
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:52 pm to SquatchDawg
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There may be some truth to this stuff on a larger scale but c'mon guys....do you really think we lost to SC and FL this year because of UGA's culture regarding athletics?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:59 pm to dallasga6
Damn every thread turns into fire richt huh? This is why we are the laughing stock of college football
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:08 pm to MSGADawg5988
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:26 pm to Dawgnational
Look, not to go full nega Dawg, but this was the last best year for UGA to win a championship. It will not happen going forward. Hint: the world as we know it will end before UGA wins natty at this point.
I hope I'm wrong, and make no mistake, I still love the Dawgs, but I just don't see it happening anytime in the foreseeable future.
I hope I'm wrong, and make no mistake, I still love the Dawgs, but I just don't see it happening anytime in the foreseeable future.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:28 pm to HinesvilleThrill
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You keep saying we don't have the resources to compete with the big boys. Yet you can't tell me anything other than "Foley is a great AD" that seperates us.
To me it IS a wholesale culture difference. The tune is set in B-M, and everyone else is forced to dance to it.
I get where folks are coming from with the "Foley does it different" angle. Foley is Steve Jobs to McGarrity's Bill Gates. Both are sitting atop metric tons of cash, but their management approaches and the cultures that generate those piles of cash couldn't be more different in terms of execution.
Creativity vs. Efficiency, if you will. That's the best analogy I can muster at the moment.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:30 pm to VoxDawg
Steve Jobs is dead
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:33 pm to Hobnail
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Steve Jobs is dead
And so are our NC hopes this year, but the comparison stands.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:48 pm to Firewind
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Look, not to go full nega Dawg, but this was the last best year for UGA to win a championship. It will not happen going forward. Hint: the world as we know it will end before UGA wins natty at this point. I hope I'm wrong, and make no mistake, I still love the Dawgs, but I just don't see it happening anytime in the foreseeable future.
A. Current recruiting success might indicate otherwise.
B. You will be right here predicting huge wins in 2015.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:59 pm to Firewind
Posted on 11/4/14 at 3:18 pm to Crowknowsbest
I hear what you guys are saying..but given their records I think we can safely say UGA should've trounced both FL and SC. I get the "any given Saturday" stuff but both of those teams suck.
For me, the whole issue is defense and the Grantham hangover. Pruitt isn't a miracle worker. That plus HM's problems left us one dimensional. Bad combo....
HOWEVER, showing up in a daze and getting gut punched is all on the coaches ...as is not maintaining the intensity these guys needed to have to compete in both of these environments. As I said.....this is a trend under CMR which is going to make it hard to win given our other issues.
For me, the whole issue is defense and the Grantham hangover. Pruitt isn't a miracle worker. That plus HM's problems left us one dimensional. Bad combo....
HOWEVER, showing up in a daze and getting gut punched is all on the coaches ...as is not maintaining the intensity these guys needed to have to compete in both of these environments. As I said.....this is a trend under CMR which is going to make it hard to win given our other issues.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 3:21 pm
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