re: Shaun McGee transferring.

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No we didn't. He decided he wanted to come in January and we can't give up an EE, he is 100% welcome to come in June...100%!!!

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Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

If we took him as an early enrollee, then he is 100% on the August scholarship role.

If we tell him that we don't have a spot in January but might have one in February (i.e. someone gets arrested or grad transfers), any smart kid/family is going to know that is also a maybe. We told him what we needed to in order for him to look elsewhere. And he/his family picked up what we were saying.

Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

Smart said, "we didn't pull his scholarship" which is correct. But we recruited him as an early enrollee and we didnt accept his commitment either.

There was equally no guarantee for February or June or August. He was welcome to wait... Maybe some kids would get busted on spring break and open up more spots. Or maybe they wouldn't.

I'm glad he landed at UT. I'm sure Kirby is too.

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but what scares me is

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Millenial? With their safe places, participation trophies, and playdoh stress relievers, they scare pretty damn easy these days.

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Can you explain

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We do share the same degree. But you are a lot newer to this following recruiting thing than you like to portray online.

There is no early enrollee limit. There is a backcounting limit. Not all early enrollees can count back to the 2016 class. But heck... all 25 recruits on our board can enroll early if their high schools let them.

Let's walk through this step by step because a degree doesnt make you smart...
Why would you tell a kid who you recruit as an early enrollee that you don't have room for him in January, but you may have room later in the year? There is no early enrollee scholarship limit. There is no 85 cap in January, May, or June. Just the August enrollment.

It means that we don't have room for him in August, presently (count the number of tailbacks on the roster and know that we don't want more eating up the 85 limit come August).

We are "asking" (by refusing a guaranteed spot) him to wait and see if there is room in February to sign his LOI and enroll in May or June. But how is that different from enrolling in January? It isnt. Unless something changes (a kid is busted and kicked off the team after spring break, a recruit doesn't get the grades to go D1, a running back gets injured in the spring and takes a medical hardship, Dell Mcgee takes a job as OC at Western Kentucky and a tailback wants to transfer or Swift changes his mind and goes to Penn State).

We aren't asking him to wait because we have room later. We are refusing to accept his commitment that guarantees a spot on the 85 in January and telling him he has to wait because we don't have room... period. Something has to change for him to get a different acceptance in February or May or June. His parents picked up that his space is no longer available (but could open back up after things that may happen). And they did what was right for their boy. They got him to UT.

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but at the same time they all count to the 85 cap each academic period

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If I'm wrong, I will admit it.

But I will ask you to prove it.
For the record, summer is an academic period. And we don't have to get under 85 until Fall classes.

I've never heard Bama refusing early enrollees because of space in January (because it doesn't matter until August). And Bama never shortchanges their 85 count.

I asked you first. Ha.

95-100% of the recruits enroll in june. And the 85 number does not matter. The coach still has a couple of months to get under 85 before classes start.
That is fact.

I've never heard about the 85 rule affecting who we can or cannot take until the actual count takes place in August. That is following UGA recruiting for the past 16 years and on the paysites for the past 10. That is hearsay... but it is said over and over and over an over. And is proven true every June when the LOIs from February are enrolled and on campus.

Edit. I've never heard about the 85 counting before August until now (toneil carter) and that is from message board posters and fly by night bloggers and radio idiots. I'm trusting the Rusty Mansells and Gentry Estes over what a Matt Chernoff thinks he knows.

I thought you had to be at 85 or under at all times.

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You do.

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We don't in February when we take LOIs. And we don't in June when all of those new recruits get on campus.

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We don't in February when we take LOIs.

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Well that's because they aren't under scholarship or on campus yet.

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And we don't in June when all of those new recruits get on campus.

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Because the Seniors have graduated and no longer count towards the 85, that's how I understand it anyway.

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We don't in February when we take LOIs.

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WRONG....because they aren't officially starting their time yet on scholarship and are NOT enrolled in school, BUT, we still have to be at or below 85 in February (between EEs and ppl in school during the Spring Semester).

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WRONG....because they aren't officially starting their time yet on scholarship and are NOT enrolled in school, BUT, we still have to be at or below 85 in February (between EEs and ppl in school during the Spring Semester).

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You are correct about the LOI. We continually will offer more incoming than will fit on the 85.

But when they arrive in June, the numbers don't matter (and can/will add up over 85). The dead weight doesn't need to be shed until August when Fall classes start. I will be glad to do the numbers with you this June.