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re: OT- Cooking the Books

Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/31/16 at 10:04 pm to
They're insurance products (contracts). You find ones that allow you to purchase guarantees or enhanced benefits or maybe the rules of the product include a stop-loss floor.

Insurance companies are required to keep at least 90% of their liabilities in reserves. In other words, if they have $10 billion in outstanding death benefits on the books, the insurance company is going to have no less than $9 billion in physical liquid cash reserves.

Insurance companies are the most solvent companies in the world. They don't default.

And no, they aren't equity based. If somebody put $100,000 into an annuity, they can purchase guarantees like maybe a 6% GMIB (guaranteed minimum income benefit), and and EDB (enhanced death benefit) that is based on that 6% annual guaranteed growth. Then the annuity owner can take that $100,000 and purchase some mutual funds or indexed funds or funds of funds inside the annuity, and they get the better of growth. If the funds in the market do 10%, they now have $110,000. But if the funds in the market do -10%, they have $106,000 because they purchased the 6% GMIB rider. And if they died the next day, their beneficiary would receive the $106,000 because they also purchased the EDB rider.

And with the cash value life, you find one with a stop-loss floor and high watermark lock-in. Part of your premium pays for the life insurance death benefit and the over-funding additional can be invested in funds or indexes. If the invested amount grows, you get to lock-in your growth at certain intervals. If the invested amount has negative gains, you have a 0% floor and can't lose your locked in cash value.

The world markets can come crumbling down and insurance products with guarantees and riders like this are going to just keep doing what they do and be virtually unaffected.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64003 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 12:27 pm to
Made $300 trolling yall.

All tax free.






Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:

Insurance companies are the most solvent companies in the world. They don't default.


AIG aside, of course.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14198 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:29 pm to
Your welcome.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64003 posts
Posted on 11/21/16 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Your welcome.


That was a good one.

Now I need a new one.
Posted by TrackDawg
Sugar Hill
Member since Sep 2013
966 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 5:07 am to
When Trump removes energy regulations, where can I invest to make some scratch?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64003 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 10:30 am to
quote:

When Trump removes energy regulations, where can I invest to make some scratch?



SO
XOM

Disclaimer: these are held in the Deeprig9 portfolio.


There's also a school of thought that the energy regulations are partially what keeps energy prices higher thus more profitable for these companies.... so you could end up with the opposite effect.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:20 pm to
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Actually no. After promising NOT to raise taxes on the middle class, Obama raised them in several areas. Also, Hillary just gave a speech saying she had every intention of raising taxes on the middle class. The only difference in The Dems are they are a little more creative in how they raise taxes. But they say they are the middle classes friend then stick it to us every time. Neither party is great about it. The GOP says they are against raising taxes then cave to the liberals to get other legislation passed.


BS! That is a Republican talking point that has been debunked.

LINK /

The Republicans are the ones who want to raid Social Security. Republicans are the ones who want to kill Medicaid. Republicans want to give trillions in new tax cuts to the top 1%, many of whom either aren't paying taxes or aren't paying anywhere close to their fair share. Just look at the Panama Papers and Trump. They also want to deregulate the criminals on Wall Street who wiped trillions from the US economy back in 2008, and destroyed millions of families retirement savings.

Neither side is all that great but Republicans don't give a damn about the working class.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64003 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

HTDawg


Did you not read the OP?

Your kind isn't welcome in this thread.

This is a thread for capitalists to talk about capitalism, in its purest form.

Please go start a wallstreet evil republican satan thread.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30552 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:01 pm to
Low energy

MAGA train gonna run your arse over
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64003 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:14 am to
Anyone here still think a major correction is coming? Like major major
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/23/16 at 1:48 pm to


Destroy the kulaks as a classs, comrade! The New Soviet Man will lead us into the Glorious Future!
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