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Posted on 8/18/15 at 6:33 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 6:33 pm
What do you think?

Seven categories in no particular order. Think of it like you can choose to be the best in the division in one, and the last in the division in another. And on down the line.

Not what you think we will be this year, but what you think is most important. What you want to be... except you can't be #1 in everything.

Offense- QB
Offense- RB Corps
Offense- Receivers/ TE's
Offense- Offensive Line
Defense- Front 7
Defense- Secondary
Special Teams- FG, Punt, PR, KR



My opinion, even though I know jack shite about football...


1. Defense- Front Seven
2. Special Teams
3. Offense- Offensive Line
4. Offense- Running Backs
5. Defense- Secondary
6. Offense- Quarterback
7. Offense- Recievers/TE
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 6:34 pm
Posted by PortlyDawg
GA
Member since Aug 2011
2400 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:19 pm to
#1 Offense- Offensive Line
#2 Defense- Front 7
#3 Defense- Secondary
#4 Offense- QB
#5 Offense- RB Corps
#6 Offense- Receivers/ TE's
#7 Special Teams- FG, Punt, PR, KR

Obviously all are important, but #1 and #2 helps everything else immensely. Not so much the other way around.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 7:41 pm to
I think if you can truly dominate on both sides of the line that covers up more weaknesses than anything else can. If you suck at those spots nothing else will work.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 8/18/15 at 8:24 pm to
1. Defense- Front Seven
If the other team only scores 10 points, then you only have to score 11.


2. Special Teams
Determines field position, and knowing you can get 3 points from the 35 yard line guaranteed means you can be riskier on 3rd down just outside the redzone. Also, kickers are usually the highest scoring player on the team.

3. Offense- Offensive Line
Makes everybody else better.

4. Offense- Running Backs
Running backs make quarterbacks better, not the other way around, so this unit is ranked above.


5. Defense- Secondary
Nobody ever won a championship with the shittiest secondary in the division.

6. Offense- Quarterback
With stellar defense holding opponents to low scores, good OL to give you time, good running backs, and great special teams for field position and long field goals in a pinch, you don't need a world beater at QB. See Tim Tebow. And on the converse, see Johnny Football, a badass, with great recievers, but defense sucked and he never finished above 3rd in his division.

7. Offense- Recievers/TE
You don't have to be the fastest, you don't have to be the tallest, you don't have to get yards after the catch. You just have to catch the damn thing, which is kinda a prerequisite to being a receiver. If all you do is catch it and fall down in bounds, you can be on a championship team if all the above falls into place.
This post was edited on 8/18/15 at 8:26 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:15 am to
1. Front 7, specifically inside. Nick Fairley was the reason Auburn beat Oregon. Great defensive tackles are the key to a great defense. Look at the DT position on all of the SEC teams that won a national title over the last decade.

2. Offensive line. Even average QBs can shine with a great group up front. You don't get a scholarship to play QB in college if you can't make accurate throws with all day to do it.

3. QB. Often the difference between great teams and elite ones.

4. Special teams. Hidden yardage is an overused cliché, but having great kickers helps both units a good bit. The return game helps with field position.

5. Secondary. Having a great secondary is nice, but they can't cover forever. If the pass rush isn't getting home, these guys are helpless.

6. WR/TE. It was hard to put this so low. A great WR can blow the top off of a cheating defense and a great, versatile TE allows you to get very creative on offense if you choose to do so.

7. RB. Having a great RB is a luxury these days. Tevin Coleman had an all world season at Indiana and their offense was still awful. Wisconsin had Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement and lost their conference title game 59-0.
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:17 am
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:30 am to
quote:

1. Front 7, specifically inside. Nick Fairley was the reason Auburn beat Oregon. Great defensive tackles are the key to a great defense. Look at the DT position on all of the SEC teams that won a national title over the last decade.

2. Offensive line. Even average QBs can shine with a great group up front. You don't get a scholarship to play QB in college if you can't make accurate throws with all day to do it.

3. QB. Often the difference between great teams and elite ones.

4. Special teams. Hidden yardage is an overused cliché, but having great kickers helps both units a good bit. The return game helps with field position.

5. Secondary. Having a great secondary is nice, but they can't cover forever. If the pass rush isn't getting home, these guys are helpless.

6. WR/TE. It was hard to put this so low. A great WR can blow the top off of a cheating defense and a great, versatile TE allows you to get very creative on offense if you choose to do so.

7. RB. Having a great RB is a luxury these days. Tevin Coleman had an all world season at Indiana and their offense was still awful. Wisconsin had Melvin Gordon and Corey Clement and lost their conference title game 59-0.


I agree with all of this, maybe switch secondary with special teams though. I have seen the secondary blow more games than I care to count.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27293 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:34 am to
Not sure,look at our team in 2012.Outstanding QB and RB play,pretty good at WR and TE.OL was above average.

Front 7 was very bad (performance wise not talent wise with exception of Jarvis Jones)Secondary was above average.

Granted,not the Bama model but we weren't that far from a NC.

Nick Fairly may have played a big part in AU's victory over OU but stat wise it was one of the worst defenses ever to win a SECC
This post was edited on 8/19/15 at 9:53 am
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4130 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:37 am to
Imma gonna go with my unit
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Nick Fairly may have played a big part in AU's victory over OU but stat wise it was one of the worst defenses ever to win a SECC


It was a bad overall defense but their ability to get pressure up the middle without blitzing (mostly because of Fairley) completely stuffed Oregon's run game and made them one dimensional.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 9:55 am to
Defense- Front 7
Defense- Secondary
Special Teams- FG, Punt, PR, KR
Offense- Offensive Line
Offense- RB Corps
Offense- QB
Offense- Receivers/ TE's


this comes from my limited knowledge, my passion, and my own coaching responsibilities in Pop Warner...you got to have a solid D or you won't win shite...and you have to be able to play special teams to play field position and you must be able to block up front...if you have those items in place...the offense has more opportunity to move the ball and have success...imho

I also prefer a run first throw second offensive style..it isn't as fun to watch for some...but it controls clock and keeps things manageable...but......you got to be able to throw when you need to...
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2861 posts
Posted on 8/19/15 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Imma gonna go with my unit


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