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re: More Success in Year 1. Smart or Richt?

Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:57 am to
Posted by CHD KNOWS ALL
Bozeman
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 7:57 am to
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Smart: 8-4


U betcha. Used to say 7-4 every year when Donut was the new savior. That was right 2/3rds of the time. I earned a lot of "yer not a real fan" awards.......for being fricking right. That plus the "what about the bowl game" comeback......months before we knew who we might play.

This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:01 am
Posted by CHD KNOWS ALL
Bozeman
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:44 am to
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You DO know that South Carolina won 11 games three years in a row, right? It's not like we were playing the Georgia School for the Bind.



I suppose they did. Most of my memory cells are, uh, occupied. I suppose I could dig up at least 3 other years in which SC did its November fold. Anyway, the whole ranked opponent argument is a minefield. Final season rankings are telling. polls before mid season are bullshite. Polls that have two Mississippi team in the top 3 come to mind.

What is irrefutable is dawgs always find a way to lay an egg when they have a chance to be great. 2002, 2007, 2008.........after 2008 I became a casual fan and stopped worshipping teenagers that were going to underachieve anyway and spent more time killing furry animals. This year I left my dawg jersey in a sports bar trash can at halftime of Bama game and swore them off until Coach Valium got fired. Now I can buy a new one. shite gets expensive. I grilled jerseys and hats In the 1990s when Donut was everybody's bitch and tossed a jersey in the fireplace when Richt or Bobo was too damn stupid to spike the ball because they were unable to grasp that they might actually accomplish something.

I will never understand the tolerance of underachievement by the majority of GA fans.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 8:48 am
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:47 am to
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I will never understand the tolerance of underachievement by the majority of GA fans.


Do you understand that you burning jerseys had nothing to do with Richt getting fired?
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:06 am
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:52 am to
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I will never understand the tolerance of underachievement by the majority of GA fans.


Most of this mentality will go the wayside when/if UGA starts winning championships. The bandwagoners will drown out all the noise.

People mentally prepare for the let downs by holding UGA in such high regard for "doing it the Georgia way" so they can have their moral victory and look down their nose at programs like FSU and Bama.

On top of that, I got lectured yesterday by someone who doesn't even watch UGA football about how us letting Richt go was unbelievable and unacceptable. This was all based on the shared Christian values of Richt and said person.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:55 am to
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Do you understand that you spending burning jerseys had nothing to do with Richt getting fired?


Posted by CHD KNOWS ALL
Bozeman
Member since Oct 2015
140 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 8:55 am to
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Do you understand that you spending burning jerseys had nothing to do with Richt getting fired?




Sure it did. I assume my jersey burning was the primary cause of his firing. My treatment of jerseys is the barometer for job security in Athens.
Posted by CHD KNOWS ALL
Bozeman
Member since Oct 2015
140 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:00 am to
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This was all based on the shared Christian values of Richt and said person.


I share Richt's Christian values. But I do not expect job security to come from that. The job is winning. All this "character development" shite is irrelevant and refuted by the very character of many of the players.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:00 am to
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I will never understand the tolerance of underachievement by the majority of GA fans.


just out of curious, how do you measure this tolerance? None of us posters have ANY say whatsoever in hiring or firing. A ned flanders, i love life kinda guy might be happy with 7-5 every year. Someone else may be pissed if we don't go 15-0 every year. Neither one has anything to do with our achievements or our future.

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What is irrefutable is dawgs always find a way to lay an egg when they have a chance to be great. 2002, 2007, 2008


Ehhhh.

-2002 is undeniable. We lost to a worse team. But Miami and OSU both went undefeated, and entering the UF game we were behind both. A win over a pedestrian UF team likely wouldn't have jumped us over OSU.
-2007 we lost to 2 mediocre teams, but so did LSU. The only difference is 1 of their shitty losses came to an east team (a team we beat btw) so they got to play for the SEC. In addition, they were 7th heading into CCG weekend and ended the day 2nd due to what can only be described as a few minor miracles. They didn't do any better than we did that year, they just got a better break.
-2008 is the one that I will always refute because people only look at us. Our fans, as they often do, get caught up in media hype (preseason #1!!!!) and not look at the big picture. No reason to lose to tech, period. That's unforgiveable. But Bama was rolling under saban and went 12-0 in the regular season. UF was rolling under meyer/tebow and went 11- regular season. They also beat bama and won the title. Sometimes you lose to a better team. They were simply better.
2012- for some reason people always point to the SC game, but that game didn't affect us one iota in getting to the title game.
Posted by CHD KNOWS ALL
Bozeman
Member since Oct 2015
140 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:05 am to
I misspoke. Defense of underachievement is rampant among GA fans. Tolerance? Other than my magical jersey burning powers, I have no impact on UGA football. But it is a business, not a sport. And there are folks who write checks with commas in the amounts who do have influence on decisions.

And we got screwed in 2007. Ranked 4th and 2 and 3 lose and we stay at 4th?
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:08 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:07 am to
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Defense of underachievement is rampant among GA fans.


I'm more on board with you here.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:09 am to
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2012- for some reason people always point to the SC game, but that game didn't affect us one iota in getting to the title game.


But it was team confidence killer and one of many examples of Richt's teams not being competitive in big game which is likely one of the reasons Richt was fired. It's not just the loses that matter but how competitive your teams is against quality opponents. In contrast, while Bielema doesn't have a good SEC record, his teams have been highly competitive vs ranked teams and now that team seems to have confidence and is an up and coming team.
This post was edited on 12/3/15 at 9:13 am
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:09 am to
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My treatment of jerseys is the barometer for job security in Athens.


It's hard to argue with such eloquence.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:12 am to
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But it was team confidence killer




please define how it killed the team's confidence. A few weeks later they beat the #2 team in america that was undefeated, beat a freeze led ole miss quite soundly, mudstomped auburn and tech, and played in the SECCG for a trip to the title.

Yeah they're confidence really plummeted I tell ya.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:15 am to
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his teams have been highly competitive vs ranked teams


Georgia ran through, up and over that highly competitive team last year. They're improving but lets pump the brakes there.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:16 am to
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please define how it killed the team's confidence. A few weeks later they beat the #2 team in america that was undefeated, beat a freeze led ole miss quite soundly, mudstomped auburn and tech, and played in the SECCG for a trip to the title.

Yeah they're confidence really plummeted I tell ya.



Valid but maybe just maybe if they had not gotten blown out by SC, they might have had the confidence/played well enough vs Bama to with that SECCG and go on to win a NC against an obviously overrated Notre Dame.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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86441 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:17 am to
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Valid but maybe just maybe if they had not gotten blown out by SC, they might have had the confidence/played well enough vs Bama


are you fricking stupid? Do you really think that the outcome of the SECCG could have changed based on the results of a game that happened nearly 60 days prior?
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:18 am to
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Valid but maybe just maybe if they had not gotten blown out by SC, they might have had the confidence/played well enough vs Bama to with that SECCG and go on to win a NC against an obviously overrated Notre Dame.


nah, UGA played that SECCG to win vs. Bama. I'm sorry but I can't buy that the SCAR game had any affect whatsoever on our motivation for the SECCG.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 9:27 am to
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are you fricking stupid?


And are you not classy enough not to result to personal attacks? And for what it's worth, stranger things have happened. Commentators often cite momentum in games. They talk about experience, teams that have been there and done that having a decided advantage over teams who have never won a championship game, etc. because they have the confidence that comes from success. Maybe our defense would have played harder/better vs Bama's running game if in the back of their minds they didn't remember the blowout vs SC. And maybe our offense executes a winning play in the redzone vs Bama if they had confidence that they could do it in the clutch.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:30 am to
I think our talent may be over rated. Certainly this year is no indication that we have a bench full of talent waiting on a new coach.

I think Kirby will need a few years to really show a difference.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 12/3/15 at 10:41 am to
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I think our talent may be over rated. Certainly this year is no indication that we have a bench full of talent waiting on a new coach.

I think Kirby will need a few years to really show a difference.



Agree with this if for no other reason than we don't have an experienced QB. Eason, assuming he comes, might be the exception but most Freshmen QB's have some significant growing pains. Plus, with Malcolm Mitchell leaving, I don't see a lot of potential on the receiving end other than Godwin. Hopefully Blazevich gets more receptions. We should be OK on defense with Smart's influence.
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