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re: Losing to Tech

Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Smart is getting a lot of criticism. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he isn't.



Did he not even read the OP?

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Smart is getting a lot of criticism. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he isn't.


Well, the post you are referencing was in response to GurleyGurl saying it was all on the players.

I am amazed that earlier in the season when everybody wanted to blame Richt for the current situation everybody wanted to pile on and talk about it. Now that it is about coaching decisions, the hypocricy is running deep on this board.

Tell me where my post was wrong and I will be quiet. Tell me that he was not blamed for all of those things....then read GurleyGurls post and show me where she was blaming the players and not the coaching. I understand everybody is getting tired of unfair criticism. (Although I do not believe I have leveled any unfair criticism towards Kirby)
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Smart is getting a lot of criticism. I don't know where you're getting the idea that he isn't.

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Did he not even read the OP?


I wasn't responding to the OP. I was responding to GurleyGurl. Go back and read.

ETA
And i have said several times in current threads, that anybody that even wants to hint at firing Kirby is wrong. It's way to early for this kind of thread.
This post was edited on 11/28/16 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:20 pm to
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The coaches didn't throw inaccurate passes, or drop passes or make a high snap on a FG attempt or allow a TD every time GT got in our redzone. Players have to take responsibility for their failed execution on the field


You won't get any argument out of me that the players ultimately let us down Saturday.

BUT,
That pass play on 2nd down, as freak of a INT as they come, should have never happened. GT couldn't stop us from running the ball. We literally needed 2 first downs to end the game. We would have made them burn their last 2 timeouts and drive the length of the field even if we had to punt. That was 100% a bad call. Eason fricked up, but it was a bad play call to begin with. That is on the coaches.

However, if I had to put percentages on the frick ups id say its def 10% Coaching and 90% players.

Our defense has got to understand that it must play defense the whole game. This year, I have felt like the defense is solid about 75% of the time. That other 25% is just garbage. No excuse for those receivers streaming down the field uncovered...NONE
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

Tell me where my post was wrong and I will be quiet. Tell me that he was not blamed for all of those things....then read GurleyGurls post and show me where she was blaming the players and not the coaching. I understand everybody is getting tired of unfair criticism. (Although I do not believe I have leveled any unfair criticism towards Kirby)

I may be the wrong person to do that, because I actually agree with you that Richt got a lot of undue criticism for mistakes that weren't really under his control. My criticism of him was more focused on his management of UGA's roster.

I'm mostly just tired of people talking about him. He's gone. We're moving into year 2 with a new coach. Time to fully move on.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:25 pm to
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That pass play on 2nd down, as freak of a INT as they come, should have never happened. GT couldn't stop us from running the ball.


While I agree with your sentiment, GT had begun to stop us running. the last 5 runs had gone for 3, 4 2 2 and 3 yards. There is a good chance they would have continued to load the box and we would have been stopped.

However, my point was let them stop us and punt the ball back to them. Give them the ball back with less than 2 minutes to go around their own 20. With a 6 point lead you NEVER throw the ball in your own territory with time running low.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:27 pm to
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I may be the wrong person to do that, because I actually agree with you that Richt got a lot of undue criticism for mistakes that weren't really under his control. My criticism of him was more focused on his management of UGA's roster.


I understand that ultimately it all falls to the Head Coach. I get that. My aggravation is just with the hypocricy of some of the posters on here. It's either on the head coach or it is not. I guess I should have made myself more clear.

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I'm mostly just tired of people talking about him. He's gone. We're moving into year 2 with a new coach. Time to fully move on.


I understand, and you are correct. There are a lot of ways I could have made my point without bringing him up.
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5549 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:29 pm to
Was it because they stacked the box? If so I still don't understand the dump pass to Godwin?

With a stacked box, we go two tight ends with our best blocking receivers and bang out yards...2-4 per play and then punt. Either way, passing was the decision that costs us the game.

But again, I hope Eason feels bad about that INT because it was his fault. A very shitty throw.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:30 pm to
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No excuse for those receivers streaming down the field uncovered...NONE


Normall, yes. The Option, veer, whatever offense being run where a QB reads a defense puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the CB's and safetys. They have to come to the LOS very quickly to cover the trail guy in case the QB pitches the ball. Then the QB takes the snap and starts down the LOS like he is going to pitch and drops back and throws. It's just very, very tough on DB's.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:31 pm to
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I'm mostly just tired of people talking about him. He's gone. We're moving into year 2 with a new coach. Time to fully move on.



This is where I'm at. Let's just not continue to bring him up everytime you find some inconsistency with how people react to Kirby vs how they reacted to Richt.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Was it because they stacked the box? If so I still don't understand the dump pass to Godwin?


I think they knew we were going to run the ball to run the clock down...so yeas, they were bringing men closer to the LOS. Kirby saw that and wanted to drive the nail in the coffin by throwing a quick hitter, and hoping Godwin could shake loose and maybe get a cheap score. I understand why he did it. It's a very tempting thing to do.

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With a stacked box, we go two tight ends with our best blocking receivers and bang out yards...2-4 per play and then punt. Either way, passing was the decision that costs us the game.


I agree 100%. That is what he should have done. Like I said...it's very tempting to try to get a cheap TD.

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But again, I hope Eason feels bad about that INT because it was his fault. A very shitty throw.


He is much more inaccurate than I thought he would be. Sometimes more work can get that out of a kid....sometimes they can't shake it. It could be we have to settle of a strong armed QB, that throw inaccurately sometimes. If that is the case it will be a high risk, high reward, boom or bust type of thing we will face. I have a feeling he will be working with his personal coach over the off season to correct that.
That said, most of his interceptions this year have been due to tipped passes, and not fully his fault. The GT pass was tipped and should have gone down as an incompletion. He has made fewer mistakes than most freshmen QB's, though, imo.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:39 pm to
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This is where I'm at. Let's just not continue to bring him up everytime you find some inconsistency with how people react to Kirby vs how they reacted to Richt.


Like I said...I could have made my point without bringing him up. I was aggravated earlier because people wanted to keep bringing him up, and now I am doing it.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:40 pm to
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But again, I hope Eason feels bad about that INT because it was his fault. A very shitty throw.


I can assure you. Nobody feels worse about it than Eason and Godwin. No matter how badly we wanted to win that game, the players want to win it a lot more.
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