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re: Kirby Smart lacks Nerve . . .

Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:16 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:16 pm to
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Saban gets pissed, Spurrier got pissed, Myer gets pissed, Carroll gets pissed, Harbough stays pissed....

.....Goff gets pissed, SUmlin gets pissed, Derek Dooley gets pissed, MIke SHula gets pissed, Muschamp gets real fricking diabolically roid pissed, yawn..........

Put me down for being with the Red team and hoping cool heads and maturity prevails when shite is on the line.


Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 5/28/16 at 11:28 pm to
Getting pissed does not mean you are a good coach. But name a coach that never gets pissed and is top shelf.

Whatever you come up with I can name many more that do get pissed as I have already done.

Getting pissed is not automatically a bad thing.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 5/29/16 at 10:41 pm to
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name a coach that never gets pissed and is top shelf.

Bobby Bowden
Tressel
Richt
Joe Gibbs
Lovie Smith
Vince Dooley

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:33 am to
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Part of my perspective is that I don't think Richt & Co. left the cupboard very well stocked.


I keep reading this, but I can't agree. We have had top 5-10 recruiting classes for quite a few years. While we have lost several highly rated players, for the most part, they have not panned out anyway and we didn't lose anyone of note the last two years. I think we are in as good a shape as we have ever been. And lets face it....those that wanted Richt gone argued he was not good, because the east is down and anybody could/should win 10 games. I know tennessee is better and Florida seems to be coming back, but South Carolina and Missouri have taken huge steps backward.

I'll be disappointed if we don't win 10 games, but I certainly won't be calling for Smart's head if we don't. We have to give him 4-5 years in my opinion.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:35 am to
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Good. i look forward to the moment. I have had enough cool to last a lifetime.

You want cool, root for miami, there is going to be plenty of cool down there.




That's silly. You want fire? Hire Muschamp. He'll give you plenty of fire. Whether or not a coach shows cool or fire makes no difference in whether or not he is a good coach.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:38 am to
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You go with richt, I'll go with Muschamp.


FIFY


Why don't we wait and go with the coach that wins games? That might be a better indicator of whether someone is a good coach or not.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:40 am to
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Getting pissed does not mean you are a good coach. But name a coach that never gets pissed and is top shelf.


Paterno. Tom Landry.

There's two.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:41 am to
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Getting pissed is not automatically a good thing.


FIFY
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:42 am to
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Good. i look forward to the moment. I have had enough cool to last a lifetime.

You want cool, root for miami, there is going to be plenty of cool down there.

Yep, I'm ready for one to see some emotion from the coach on the sidelines and by that I mean head coach. I'm not saying Richt isn't emotional, but damn how many times could you spot Richt on the sideline with the lack of emotion that most other coaches would show. Also about the only time I saw him really get pissed was vs Auburn I think, when he said something to one of the refs, then got flagged for it.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 7:58 am to
Maybe Paterno kept his cool because he knew that Sandusky had something for him back at the house?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 9:55 am to
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Maybe Paterno kept his cool because he knew that Sandusky had something for him back at the house?


Seriously? We're going to joke about pedophilia now?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:10 am to
No, just counter pointing his use as a proof source for great coaches who kept their cool. Keeping a known pedophile on campus and allowing him to run a camp full of boys, by action or inaction makes Paterno a fricking count of a human and a disgrace to the profession....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 10:25 am to
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No, just counter pointing his use as a proof source for great coaches who kept their cool.


I understand. but he was one of the winningest football coaches in the history of the game. Surely you aren't going to argue this point?

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Keeping a known pedophile on campus and allowing him to run a camp full of boys, by action or inaction makes Paterno a fricking count of a human and a disgrace to the profession....


he was a disgrace as a human being for allowing Sandusky to do that. However, he was a great coach.

I guess my Tom Landry suggestion doesn't count? I mean...we can go back and forth all day, but it all boils down to this.....you don't have to show rage to be a great football coach. That does not make one great. There are plenty of great coaches that kept their cool. There are plenty of great football coaches that showed emotion. To say you have to rage along the sideline to be great is just.....a dumb thing for anyone to say.

ETA
Dawgonit didn't use Paterno as an example. I did. I reread and think you got confused.
This post was edited on 5/30/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:05 pm to
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name a coach that never gets pissed and is top shelf.


Bobby Bowden - Bowden got plenty pissed
Tressel - Tressel got plenty pissed
Richt - you just made my case
Joe Gibbs - That's one
Lovie Smith - getting fired after 2 years with the Bucs does not a name a coach that never gets pissed and is top shelf.


Bobby Bowden - got pissed
Tressel - got pissed
Richt - you just made my point
Joe Gibbs - that's one
Lovie Smith - getting fired after 2 years with the Bucs does not a top shelf coach make
Vince Dooley - didn't have to get pissed, Russell had enough piss for the whole state of GA


But let me get all this right. You are dissing Smart before he has coached a game and want richt back because of his placid demeanor?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14166 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:36 pm to
Richt gets bewildered....and then calls for a pooch kick...

Kind of the same thing.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:56 pm to
I've seen all those coaches get pissed. Some just more than others. I don't think either way is bad or good.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 6:34 am to
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I've seen all those coaches get pissed. Some just more than others. I don't think either way is bad or good.


Agreed. And Richt has gotten upset, too. ALL coaches get mad, some just show it more than others. And, showing they are mad or hiding it does not make them a good coach, or a bad one. One of the greatest coaches in pro football never showed any emotion at all. On the other hand, one of the greatest coaches of all time in pro football showed a ton of fire. (Lombardi) Same could be said about some of the worst coaches....both ways. Had Will Muschamp been the coach at Georgia the past few years everybody would be saying we need a coach that keeps his cool under intense pressure and adversity.

I think some complain about the lack of fire with Richt because...well, they are just ready for a change. They need to understand and realize, though, that it will take more than just showing emotions to make Georgia go over the top.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58905 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 6:37 am to
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Richt gets bewildered....and then calls for a pooch kick...



And other coaches yell, complain and argue for one more second to be put back on the clock, then gets beat by a returned, missed field goal that costs them a National Championship. Can anybody on this board show me a coach that wouldn't take back some decision they have made?
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:22 am to
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I keep reading this, but I can't agree. We have had top 5-10 recruiting classes for quite a few years. While we have lost several highly rated players, for the most part, they have not panned out anyway and we didn't lose anyone of note the last two years. I think we are in as good a shape as we have ever been. And lets face it....those that wanted Richt gone argued he was not good, because the east is down and anybody could/should win 10 games.


agree 100%
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:46 pm to
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They need to understand and realize, though, that it will take more than just showing emotions to make Georgia go over the top.


No one has made anything like that statement.

The statement I made was most of the top shelf coaches were emotional. But being emotional did not a top shelf coach make. I stand by it.

You can dig up exceptions to anything. Dungy being one. Most of the better coaches are very driven, fiery, emotional guys. But that doesn't mean they all are.
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