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re: KFC Georgia Gold. . .
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:27 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:27 pm to Cheese Grits
Dear gramps,
Why are you avoiding the question? I'm your young impressionable grandson and am trying to learn from your worldly wisdom. But all I'm getting is cutesy cute vernacular like how they wrote the menu at Cracker Barrel. Look grampa. I'm worried about your soul. To get the death penalty , all 12 jurors must vote unanimously for it. If any one juror votes No, then it's life w/out parole and no execution. So,basically, humans have found a way to take the tragedy of one murderer......and create 12 MORE murderers out of it. This is unsettling. Without going into Cracker Barrel menu mode grampa, do you agree?
Regards,
Junior chee
Why are you avoiding the question? I'm your young impressionable grandson and am trying to learn from your worldly wisdom. But all I'm getting is cutesy cute vernacular like how they wrote the menu at Cracker Barrel. Look grampa. I'm worried about your soul. To get the death penalty , all 12 jurors must vote unanimously for it. If any one juror votes No, then it's life w/out parole and no execution. So,basically, humans have found a way to take the tragedy of one murderer......and create 12 MORE murderers out of it. This is unsettling. Without going into Cracker Barrel menu mode grampa, do you agree?
Regards,
Junior chee
Posted on 3/29/17 at 1:33 pm to Hobnail
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Would KFC Georgia Gold be your last meal before meeting ol sparky?
I'm currently free and haven't even tried the GA Gold yet, so probably not.
I'd probably go with boiled eggs and jagermeister or some other kind of toxic combo. So that when the executioner pulls the lever and my bowels let go, all those bastards would have to breathe some pungent evil funk vapors.
What about you?
Posted on 3/29/17 at 2:25 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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humans have found a way to take the tragedy of one murderer......and create 12 MORE murderers out of it. This is unsettling.
Posted on 3/29/17 at 7:51 pm to deeprig9
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litigator needs to step up and do his part to see that justice and the law are upheld. He took an oath.
It is puzzling to me how this lack of witnesses for an execution came to be. Many years ago when I was one of the people involved in the legal part of executions there was no problem finding witnesses, many of whom came from the locale where the murder occurred or were somehow connected to the case. Maybe the law will get changed to require only a couple of witnesses.
Prior to this story the big news relating to executions in my state and many others was being able to come up with the toxic cocktail for the execution by lethal injection. The chemicals are becoming hard to find.
On a lighter note I was able to consume a couple of jalapeño cheese bars at Corn Dog 7 on my time off and they were as good as I remembered.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:55 am to Litigator
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Many years ago when I was one of the people involved in the legal part of executions
Prosecution or Defense?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:35 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Prosecution or Defense?
Prosecution.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:50 pm to Litigator
What was the crime?
Also, just a thought.... If they're having trouble getting witnesses, they should make aspiring trial law students go.
Let them see firsthand what they are aspiring towards.
Also, just a thought.... If they're having trouble getting witnesses, they should make aspiring trial law students go.
Let them see firsthand what they are aspiring towards.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:36 pm to Jefferson Dawg
All of the individuals had been convicted of the crime of capital murder and received the death penalty.
A lot of planning went into having an execution, legal and otherwise. With respect to the witnesses, they would meet at a designated location and were escorted to the execution site to witness the execution. After the execution was completed, they were escorted back to the designated location and left for home thereafter.
An interesting fact in our state history is that at one point in time the condemned had a choice of death by electrocution or lethal injection. One inmate let the prison officials decide and they chose electrocution. LINK Today, lethal injection is the only mode of execution that is authorized.
A lot of planning went into having an execution, legal and otherwise. With respect to the witnesses, they would meet at a designated location and were escorted to the execution site to witness the execution. After the execution was completed, they were escorted back to the designated location and left for home thereafter.
An interesting fact in our state history is that at one point in time the condemned had a choice of death by electrocution or lethal injection. One inmate let the prison officials decide and they chose electrocution. LINK Today, lethal injection is the only mode of execution that is authorized.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 12:21 pm to Litigator
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Today, lethal injection is the only mode of execution that is authorized.
Where does Arkansas generally go after the death penalty?
Is there a body count?
Posted on 3/31/17 at 2:09 pm to Cheese Grits
I heard a man on the radio a while back say that Georgia led the country in most executions last year. So we win the gold medal for murdering criminals. Georgia gold.
Full circle again.
Full circle again.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 2:31 pm to Cheese Grits
Basically the State first has to prove the crime of capital murder and it is defined in various ways but includes causing someone's death during certain felonies (felony murder), intentionally causing the death of a certain class of people (such as police officers), or causing the death of any person with premeditation and deliberation.
If that is established then you move into the sentencing phase and the State has to prove one or more aggravating circumstances and they include things such as causing the death of more than one person in the same criminal episode. Those committing murder for pecuniary gain and those committing murder while having been previously convicted of a prior violent felony are common aggravators.
Finally, the jury must determine that the aggravating circumstances outweigh the mitigating circumstances and that a death sentence is justified.
Cop killers are one of the more common groups receiving the death penalty nationwide. You may recall this one from Georgia and here's the news article. LINK. If you want to search the Youtube links of the video recording the murder you'll find graphic video of the killing.
If that is established then you move into the sentencing phase and the State has to prove one or more aggravating circumstances and they include things such as causing the death of more than one person in the same criminal episode. Those committing murder for pecuniary gain and those committing murder while having been previously convicted of a prior violent felony are common aggravators.
Finally, the jury must determine that the aggravating circumstances outweigh the mitigating circumstances and that a death sentence is justified.
Cop killers are one of the more common groups receiving the death penalty nationwide. You may recall this one from Georgia and here's the news article. LINK. If you want to search the Youtube links of the video recording the murder you'll find graphic video of the killing.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 7:28 pm to Litigator
Here's a site compiling the last words of the executed right before the lethal injection is injected.....
LINK......
Pretty sure they must give them some kind of anti-nervous pill before the whole ordeal because it all sounds pretty calm cool and collected. Or at least it reads that way.
LINK......
Pretty sure they must give them some kind of anti-nervous pill before the whole ordeal because it all sounds pretty calm cool and collected. Or at least it reads that way.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 7:33 pm to Jefferson Dawg
How is a thread about shitty chicken the longest running non-stickied thread in this forum. What the hell is wrong with you people.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 9:14 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Help me understand your position. If I run over a person while drunk - and the jury convicts me for manslaughter - is the jury putting me in jail or did I get myself thrown in jail?
I get the argument regarding the death penalty but am not sure how it's the jury that are murderers if a person does something so heinous they get the death penalty. That person made a decision to violently end another life - without the benefit of a jury or any academic discussion about the sanctity of life.
I'm pro life and support the death penalty - and have no problem reconciling the two positions.
I get the argument regarding the death penalty but am not sure how it's the jury that are murderers if a person does something so heinous they get the death penalty. That person made a decision to violently end another life - without the benefit of a jury or any academic discussion about the sanctity of life.
I'm pro life and support the death penalty - and have no problem reconciling the two positions.
This post was edited on 3/31/17 at 9:17 pm
Posted on 3/31/17 at 10:51 pm to Litigator
Litigator, what's the story behind this one?
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1990:
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Arkansas is planning to conduct another execution. Ronald Gene Simmons is scheduled to die by injection on June 25 for the 1987 killings of 16 people, including 14 of his relatives.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:11 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Here's a site compiling the last words of the executed right before the lethal injection is injected.....
Jesus Christ, that's fricked up. I read about 30 of them.
Posted on 3/31/17 at 11:42 pm to deeprig9
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1987 killings of 16 people, including 14 of his relatives.
Yeah, fire up old sparky for this one
16 people = death penalty
Posted on 4/1/17 at 1:13 am to deeprig9
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Ronald Gene Simmons
Kind of a long story but this was a mass murder case where the Defendant was sentenced to death for killing people including his family members/relatives. LINK. Once the jury imposed the death penalty the trial judge set an execution date at midnight. This was somewhat of a logistical nightmare because executions generally don't transpire at midnight but rather normally occur early in the evening where it is more convenient to get everyone in place.
Simmons waived his right to an appeal and wanted the death sentence to be carried out without any review by the courts. Another death row inmate eventually filed a petition on behalf of Simmons arguing that Simmons was not competent to waive his right to appeal and that an appeal of a death sentence was constitutionally mandated. That case wound up before the United States Supreme Court and on the day of the first scheduled execution a stay of execution was entered in Whitmore v Arkansas LINK. The US Supreme Court ultimately ruled, after briefing and oral argument, that Whitmore lacked standing to argue on Simmons' behalf and that mandatory appellate review of death sentences was not constitutionally required. Subsequently, the stay of execution was lifted and Simmons was executed.
An interesting footnote is that at any time prior to the moment of execution had Simmons requested an appeal he would have received one. I don't recall his last words, if any, but they did not include that he desired an appeal--he was steadfast in wanting to be executed.
This post was edited on 4/1/17 at 1:16 am
Posted on 4/1/17 at 8:26 am to Jefferson Dawg
quote:In most cases you're dealing with pretty fricked up people so that's not terribly surprising.
Pretty sure they must give them some kind of anti-nervous pill before the whole ordeal because it all sounds pretty calm cool and collected. Or at least it reads that way.
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