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re: Jacob Park Update

Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:13 pm to
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Style of offense, for one.


Thats on us. We need to and needed to be running a better offense to suit a talent of his nature.

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Watson was considered a Clemson lock from the beginning. (Not sure why, though. Seems like he was a lifelong Clemson fan, or something.)


Because UGA wouldnt offer and Clemson offered early. Cost Richt his job.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Because UGA wouldnt offer and Clemson offered early. Cost Richt his job.

1/3 of these are accurate.
Posted by jodeaux
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:30 pm to
Park looks like trash at the moment. He throws off balance and just generally looks sloppy. Like his size and athleticism though
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:33 pm to
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Style of offense, for one.
quote:

Thats on us. We need to and needed to be running a better offense to suit a talent of his nature.



How much talent does he have, though? he is barely keeping his head above water at Iowa State. It wouldn't surprise me if he loses the job there. I honestly don't know much about Park....as far as the type of offense that suits him best. But if I am a high school QB, I am going to find a college that runs the offense that suits my skills instead of thinking they will form their offense around me.

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Cost Richt his job.


You can certainly make that argument.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 3:38 pm to
Just looked up his profile in 247. He was rated a 3* at .8417 coming out of community college. That indicates that he might have been over rated in high school....or maybe just got rusty sitting at Georgia. Either way, I'm not real sorry he isn't on the team right now.

OH! He is a pro-style QB, so he would have fit our offense.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:24 pm to
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1/3 of these are accurate.


All of it is accurate
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:21 pm to
I looked two or three places trying to find when Clemson offered Watson, and when Georgia offered him. I DO remember on the board some people being very disappointed we did not get him. I also remember a lot of people thinking we got some good QB's and we didn't have to get Watson, because he was a DT, and our system didn't really fit. Looking back on it, it sure would have been nice to have him. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Well, I guess not always...but usually.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 7:42 pm to
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I looked two or three places trying to find when Clemson offered Watson, and when Georgia offered him.


Clemson offered 6/2011.
He committed to Clemson 2/1/2012.
UGA offered 1/19/2013.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 11:01 am to
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Clemson offered 6/2011.
He committed to Clemson 2/1/2012.
UGA offered 1/19/2013.


Good find! Then we were late to the game.

It seems nobody (even earlier) considered him as a possibility, but i can't remember why. He was from South Carolina, or was a big Clemson fan or something. Either way, you can't expect to be a player if you offer in January. I'm a little surprised it took Clemson so long to offer.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 3:05 pm to
Clemson offered him Before his sophomore year after he camped at both Clemson and Uga. We would have had a great shot had we done the same, but of course we had no shot with our decision to wait.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 3:53 pm to
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Clemson offered him Before his sophomore year after he camped at both Clemson and Uga. We would have had a great shot had we done the same, but of course we had no shot with our decision to wait.


I thought you said Clemson offered him in June 2011? Maybe I misunderstood. He signed in 2012, I think.

But, if I am remembering correctly, people on this board was saying he had some kind of tie to Clemson, or grew up a huge fan and everybody thought we had no shot at signing him for the beginning. I do remember everybody saying he was Clemson all the way, though.

Who knows, really. I hate to play what if games. I see people saying we would have had a better record this year if Richt was here...or some saying it would be worse. Nobody knows. We can only speculate.

ETA
My bad. He committed 2/2012 and signed in 2/2014.
This post was edited on 11/5/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 4:31 pm to
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I thought you said Clemson offered him in June 2011? Maybe I misunderstood. He signed in 2012, I think.

But, if I am remembering correctly, people on this board was saying he had some kind of tie to Clemson, or grew up a huge fan and everybody thought we had no shot at signing him for the beginning. I do remember everybody saying he was Clemson all the way, though.



That was nothing but homer UGA fans rationalizing missing out on him. We had little shot once he committed to Clemson, and we had zero shot after we decided to not offer AGAIN in summer 2012. He had zero personal tie to Clemson. Clemson made a tie with their early recruiting, and we compounded that by telling him he wasn't good enough with our early recruiting. The late offer was worthless.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 4:38 pm to
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That was nothing but homer UGA fans rationalizing missing out on him.


Actually it was long before he signed. But, probably were homer fans.

I have mixed feelings about offering a kid as a sophomore or earlier.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 4:51 pm to
Because he picked Clemson long before he signed. When you have an obvious stud, you offer asap. I think they would have, but they couldn't dare scare away an overrated wing t qb.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:05 pm to
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Because he picked Clemson long before he signed. When you have an obvious stud, you offer asap. I think they would have, but they couldn't dare scare away an overrated wing t qb.


How would you have felt if we had gotten Watson and missed on Ramsey, and Watson turned out to be a bust and Ramsey had hit it big? A lot of people felt that Ramsey was the better prospect. A lot of people felt that Watson was the better prospect. I didn't know which one would be better then. I do now, though.
Hindsight. 20/20.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:22 pm to
I would have felt we made the right decision at the time. Watson was in a different class than Ramsey, both as a prospect and as a senior, and even the thought that watson would scare ramsey away despite being a class behind should have been a warning sign to everyone.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:27 pm to
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I would have felt we made the right decision at the time.


And you would have been wrong.

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Watson was in a different class than Ramsey,

Man experts would disagree with you. However, we all know now that you would have been correct.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:29 pm to
Bottom line: Ramsey got a bump from Dawgvent.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32850 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 5:58 pm to
How would I be wrong? Watson was higher ranked overall, as a qb, in the state of ga, and had more relevent training in a passing offense.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58907 posts
Posted on 11/5/16 at 6:02 pm to
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How would I be wrong?


I asked how you would have felt if we had gotten Watson and he failed...then Ramsey hit it big somewhere else.
You said you would have thought we made the right decision at the time. (Getting Watson)

I said you would have been wrong because Watson would have failed, therefore your thinking we made the right decision of getting Watson would have been wrong.

Maybe my question was not clear. I have a weird way of saying things sometimes. Time to go get ready for the game. You have a good evening and lets hope we take this game.
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