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Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:02 pm to GeorgiaBoy
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:02 pm to GeorgiaBoy
The rust was showing from missing practice and lack of playing time. The talent was on display, and it is a great talent. I would start Eason against Missouri to get meaningful game time snaps.
I think we are going to need another QB ready to play before the season is over.
I think we are going to need another QB ready to play before the season is over.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:04 pm to hangingdawg
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I would start Eason against Missouri to get meaningful game time snaps.
I think we are going to need another QB ready to play before the season is over.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:06 pm to GeorgiaBoy
You are basically claiming a drop off to a RB should just about never occur. Think about how stupid that sounds.
Same mistake that cost him his starting position.
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Eason's only mistake was not throwing the ball away.
Same mistake that cost him his starting position.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:17 pm to hangingdawg
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The talent was on display, and it is a great talent.
Are you joking here?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:27 pm to frogtown
I keep seeing posts from strangers all saying that Eason is awesome. Who are these people?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:39 pm to hangingdawg
quote:Glad we aren't paying you millions of dollars to coach this team, then.
The rust was showing from missing practice and lack of playing time. The talent was on display, and it is a great talent. I would start Eason against Missouri to get meaningful game time snaps.
I think we are going to need another QB ready to play before the season is over.
Our goals are on the line every single game. You don't bench your healthy starting QB--who has helped lead your team to a 6-0 start--as an experiment, or worse, a glorified practice.
Fromm starts and if we're up by 30, let Eason overthrow some balls and run out the clock.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 9:49 pm to djsdawg
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Eason's only mistake was not throwing the ball away.
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Same mistake that cost him his starting position.
I hate it when people say "savage" but damn that is savage.
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:12 pm to djsdawg
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Same mistake that cost him his starting position.
Are you claiming that knee injury in the App state game was faked so Chaney could put Fromm in?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 10:16 pm to AlaCowboy
quote:I believe he was saying that not throwing the ball away is what led to Eason's injury.
Are you claiming that knee injury in the App state game was faked so Chaney could put Fromm in?
Posted on 10/8/17 at 11:44 pm to AlaCowboy
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you claiming that knee injury in the App state game was faked so Chaney could put Fromm in?
That's crazy talk.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 3:33 am to Barstools
It's really more in the way that opposing DCs call the game when Easy E is in there. No respects are given. They just come after him and stack the box.
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:13 am to GeorgiaBoy
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You think Zach Cunningham didn't run a 4.5?
But for arguments sake let's say he ran a 5 flat. That's 8 yards per second, right? So you think Eason sees Swift, gets the ball to him and Swift turns, recognizes the defender and makes him miss in a second?
You're STILL wrong and looking dumber by the post.
So with your excellent math, how far away does the defender need to be to be considered open then? Like 20 yards? Obviously 10 yards away isn't open, and with your math, 15 yards probably isn't open either. So again, 20 yards should be enough distance between a defender and a receiver, correct?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:42 am to dawgsjw
Here's the play in question. It looks like the defender is keyed in on Swift and is heading towards him. From what I can tell, he doesn't look at Eason to see if he will throw it, he just heads toward Swift in case he gets the ball.
Here are two screen grabs from the play. The first one is when Eason pumps as if he's going to throw the ball to Swift. The second is approximately when the ball would have made it to Swift, assuming Eason guns it like he usually does. The defender does slow down a bit, probably to make sure he doesn't overshoot his coverage to let Swift by him if/when the ball gets there.
Here are two screen grabs from the play. The first one is when Eason pumps as if he's going to throw the ball to Swift. The second is approximately when the ball would have made it to Swift, assuming Eason guns it like he usually does. The defender does slow down a bit, probably to make sure he doesn't overshoot his coverage to let Swift by him if/when the ball gets there.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 9:43 am
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:57 am to FooManChoo
I think Eason was going to throw it to Swift in the flat, but saw the curl route come open at the end, which is why I think he didn't throw it to Swift.
Swift was open, but Eason thought he had more time. As you can see the oline was stout on that play, just didnt see the CB blitz, which was timed and played very well.
Swift was open, but Eason thought he had more time. As you can see the oline was stout on that play, just didnt see the CB blitz, which was timed and played very well.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:09 am to dawgsjw
True. I just think Eason is always looking for the big(er) pickup, waiting for someone to get open downfield. That's great if you have a lot of time to do it, but that's where pocket presence comes in to play. If you're completely unaware of what's going on around you, you're two and a half seconds away from a sack fumble.
Again, Eason had checked three different options, including one open in the flat, by the time he got sacked. If you wait long enough, someone is going to be breathing down your pads even if every blitzing defender gets picked up and blocked initially.
While I do blame Eason for waiting too long to throw it, to be fair it's true that the blitz was not picked up by any blockers leaving Eason as a sitting duck. I think that's where the quick decisions and quick release are beneficial in those situations.
Again, Eason had checked three different options, including one open in the flat, by the time he got sacked. If you wait long enough, someone is going to be breathing down your pads even if every blitzing defender gets picked up and blocked initially.
While I do blame Eason for waiting too long to throw it, to be fair it's true that the blitz was not picked up by any blockers leaving Eason as a sitting duck. I think that's where the quick decisions and quick release are beneficial in those situations.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:43 pm to FooManChoo
No. A late hit out of bounds caused that injury. Eason did the right thing. He was actually looking downfield as he ran to the sideline.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 12:52 pm to AlaCowboy
The right thing is to throw the ball away instead of taking a sack and increasing the odds of a late hit. Some of y'all are coming up with creative ways to spin costly Eason mistakes.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:07 pm to Cousin_Avi
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That do not see how much better our offense runs with Jake.
I think everybody sees it in the limited time that Eason has had a chance. but it is very difficult to judge based upon cleanup snaps for Eason. You are judging on last year and some very limited appearances.
However, there is no doubt, based upon what we have seen, that Fromm looks better. I think many that are still in the "wait and see" stage just want to make dead certain that Fromm is better than Eason.
The longer Fromm is in the drivers seat and Eason is not 100% the more Fromm gets a strangle hold on the starters job.
ETA
This said, every week we have this or a similar thread. The same things are said and rehashed. Do we really need another 15 page thread on who should be starting?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:09 pm to AlaCowboy
quote:In philosophy, there are multiple causes within the realm of causality. The popular four-cause philosophy of Aristotle would describe it this way: the defender was the efficient cause while Eason's running out of bounds was the material cause.
No. A late hit out of bounds caused that injury. Eason did the right thing. He was actually looking downfield as he ran to the sideline.
Because Eason decided to hold on to the ball and run out of bounds for a loss of yards instead of throwing it away, the defender had the opportunity for a late hit which resulted in the injury.
No one is arguing that the late hit caused the injury, but some of us are saying that going out of bounds was the wrong move by Eason regardless of the injury and it provided the opportunity for the late hit. Fromm got an earful from CKS on Saturday for scrambling for a big pickup a yard shy of the first down marker. The implication is that CKS doesn't want to leave any yards on the field. If Eason doesn't get hit and doesn't get injured, he should have been yelled at for taking a loss of yards instead of throwing the ball away because he left yards on the field.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 1:19 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Shouldn't need to have this discussion any longer. Seems like Fromm won the job
This said, every week we have this or a similar thread. The same things are said and rehashed. Do we really need another 15 page thread on who should be starting?
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