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Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:39 pm to DawgsLife
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I think Richt won in his first year, didn't he?
8-4
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Urban Meyer, maybe, at Florida and Ohio State?
wasn't a first year HC
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:41 pm to jcolding41
About as lethal as a box of kittens.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 1:45 pm to NCdawgfan34
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:46 pm to HinesvilleThrill
Again your insightfulness and participation in this thread proves to be invaluable. You seem to be the only one in the thread incapable of adding to it with anything meaningful at all except to post cute little clips.
Everyone else in this thread seems fully capable of arguing with respect and intelligence except you. VA would have had every reason to get aggravated with my arguments, yet he remains respectful and presents thoughtful counter arguments. You however seem to only be capable of going and finding clips to post.
Good job!
Everyone else in this thread seems fully capable of arguing with respect and intelligence except you. VA would have had every reason to get aggravated with my arguments, yet he remains respectful and presents thoughtful counter arguments. You however seem to only be capable of going and finding clips to post.
Good job!
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:47 pm to WG_Dawg
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wasn't a first year HC
Ah! I took it to mean the first year at a school. You're probably right, though. First year as a HC.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:17 pm to DawgsLife
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Again your insightfulness and participation in this thread proves to be invaluable
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You seem to be the only one in the thread incapable of adding to it with anything meaningful at all except to post cute little clips.
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Everyone else in this thread seems fully capable of arguing with respect and intelligence except you. VA would have had every reason to get aggravated with my arguments, yet he remains respectful and presents thoughtful counter arguments. You however seem to only be capable of going and finding clips to post. Good job!
Posted on 12/18/15 at 8:00 pm to jcolding41
Not very lethal, for all the reasons that have already been mentioned (Chubb ?, TF Eason, lack of proven WR threat, etc).
As long as they progress throughout the year and are trending up, and we have 8 wins, I'll be satisfied. I want the feeling that we're building towards something and developing talent the right ways. Then I'll bitch and moan less.
As long as they progress throughout the year and are trending up, and we have 8 wins, I'll be satisfied. I want the feeling that we're building towards something and developing talent the right ways. Then I'll bitch and moan less.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 9:18 pm to PDXDawg
The defense will be very good next year, so we wont have to worry about that one bit, but the offense will struggle.
Josh Rosen looked like a future Heisman winner this year as a true freshman at UCLA, but he still had his problems. He threw 6 TDs to 5 INTs in UCLAs 4 losses, and threw 3 more INTs against BYU in a one point win. This was with a two time 1000 yard rusher in Paul Perkins, and two good receiving options in Jordan Payton and Thomas Duarte.
Kyle Allen and Will Grier looked bad in 2014. Brad Kaaya had 11 TDs to 9 INTs that year in losses.
Christian Hackenberg had less than 3000 yards, and went 20 and 10 for Penn State as a freshman.
2012 had no one of note.
Jameis Winston and Johnny Manziel were both redshirt freshman when they shined.
I would expect lots of struggles for Eason next year against SEC defenses. 8-4 would probably be my early prediction for our record next year.
Josh Rosen looked like a future Heisman winner this year as a true freshman at UCLA, but he still had his problems. He threw 6 TDs to 5 INTs in UCLAs 4 losses, and threw 3 more INTs against BYU in a one point win. This was with a two time 1000 yard rusher in Paul Perkins, and two good receiving options in Jordan Payton and Thomas Duarte.
Kyle Allen and Will Grier looked bad in 2014. Brad Kaaya had 11 TDs to 9 INTs that year in losses.
Christian Hackenberg had less than 3000 yards, and went 20 and 10 for Penn State as a freshman.
2012 had no one of note.
Jameis Winston and Johnny Manziel were both redshirt freshman when they shined.
I would expect lots of struggles for Eason next year against SEC defenses. 8-4 would probably be my early prediction for our record next year.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:42 pm to jcolding41
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Since we will have Chubb
Maybe, maybe not. Lets just assume otherwise for now.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:57 pm to Broncothor
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We beat UNC because its our first Smart game and its in the dome. Have to win.
Ole Miss away is probably a loss.
UT is in Athens, so it will be a win.
This is some odd reasoning.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:01 pm to DawgsLife
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I'm a little shocked that everybody that was saying that UGA should win 10 every single year with our talent is now saying we should win 7 or 8.
Year 1 is a transition year, doesnt matter who the coach is.
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many on here that put unrealistic expectations out there
Not unrealistic to expect more from Richt over the past 10 years.
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BUT, you also have to remember, that NORMALLY when a team changes coaches it is because the team is not very good at all.
UGA doesnt settle for being better than "not very good". We fired Donnan and Richt because of that.
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:29 pm to djsdawg
Home field advantage is odd? Ok.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:19 am to Broncothor
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Home field advantage is odd? Ok.
I dont think its as big of a deal to use it as justification of winning. I have seen UGA crap their pants at home and on the road.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:55 am to djsdawg
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Year 1 is a transition year, doesnt matter who the coach is.
That seemed to work out OK for Fla.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 3:12 am to WhopperDawg
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That seemed to work out OK for Fla.
They may have had a better record due to a few factors, but they certainly didnt look any better.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:48 am to WhopperDawg
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That seemed to work out OK for Florida
Exactly,and they were much improved especially when Grier was around (lets not forget that they crushed Ole Miss).Much like UF,we'll bring back a very talented defense and if Chubb comes back for even 3/4 of the season,we'll bring back just as much talent on offense.
9 wins at minimum.
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:43 pm to djsdawg
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Year 1 is a transition year, doesnt matter who the coach is.
Of course you are correct. Someone was saying that they couldn't remember the last time a first time HC had a really good year. That got me to thinking, so I tried to look it up. (It wasn't easy) I couldn't really remember the last person that had never been a HC being hired into a major program. (I'm sure it has happened, I just couldn't remember or find it) I thought it was an interesting thing to discuss. Even if we could find some first time head coaches at a major program it still wouldn't fill our particular situation. Typically a coaching change occurs because the wheels are falling off a program. With UGA, it is more a matter of trying to take the program to the next level. We have a lot of talent. Thin in some areas, but there is more talent than MOST programs have when making a change.
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Not unrealistic to expect more from Richt over the past 10 years.
I don't know. In the last 10 years we came within an eyelash of playing for two National Championships. Legitimate point that we did not...but we were close twice in the last 10 years. A lucky bounce here and there and we would have put Richt in a conversation about elite coaches.
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UGA doesnt settle for being better than "not very good". We fired Donnan and Richt because of that.
I didn't say that at all. I said usually OTHER schools make a change because they are not very good. I think a top 10 team is very good. VERY good.
That said...I get it. We want to go to the next level. I am on board with that. I might have felt we could do that with Richt, but can easily understand why many did not think that. Now that the change has been made I am ready to get on board and hope we can take it to the next level with Smart. I am good with the hire.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:45 pm to WhopperDawg
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That seemed to work out OK for Fla.
It did for Auburn, too. 2013, remember? However, he is right. Year 1 it usually is a transition year. And one year does not define a coach. Let's see how McElwaine does over the next 2-3 years before we crown it a successful hire. Let's give Smart 3-4 years before we throw him under the bus or crown hm a successful hire, too.
Posted on 12/19/15 at 12:55 pm to jcolding41
Rebuilt offensive line, probably with very young guys at the tackle positions. A rebuilt knee for Chubb...it's yet to be seen if he'll be the same. A true freshman quarterback...don't care if he's all world in high school, he'll have a lot to learn. We need some immediate help at receiver and we need someone in addition to Michel for depth at RB.
Defense has a lot of returning (and incoming) talent, so I'm not worried there, though it remains if there will be some minor adjustments to Kirby's system.
But offense is going to be in progress this year...
Much better hopes for 2017. For 2016, so much hinges on how good Eason can be as a freshman...and what happens with the OL under Pittman.
Defense has a lot of returning (and incoming) talent, so I'm not worried there, though it remains if there will be some minor adjustments to Kirby's system.
But offense is going to be in progress this year...
Much better hopes for 2017. For 2016, so much hinges on how good Eason can be as a freshman...and what happens with the OL under Pittman.
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