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re: Fromm vs. Eason
Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:48 pm to S1C EM
Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:48 pm to S1C EM
Didnt mean to touch any nerves... my GTFOH was supposed to be read as playful... I get it, it can be hard to read emotion on these kinds of boards - sorry if misinterpreted.
To give a real reply to your post... No I dont think Fromm should be considered next year. I generally dont think any Freshman should be considered as a starting QB unless it just looks really bad... our QB situation this year with Lambert and Ramsey was really bad.
We all just want to win, you and I are in the same boat there. I just think we have to be very patient this year and maybe next to get that title that we all want so badly.
To give a real reply to your post... No I dont think Fromm should be considered next year. I generally dont think any Freshman should be considered as a starting QB unless it just looks really bad... our QB situation this year with Lambert and Ramsey was really bad.
We all just want to win, you and I are in the same boat there. I just think we have to be very patient this year and maybe next to get that title that we all want so badly.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 1:15 pm to King of Cloverhurst
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Didnt mean to touch any nerves... my GTFOH was supposed to be read as playful... I get it, it can be hard to read emotion on these kinds of boards - sorry if misinterpreted.
Fair enough. No worries. Just know, around this place, GTFOH pretty much means GTFOH every time.
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To give a real reply to your post... No I dont think Fromm should be considered next year. I generally dont think any Freshman should be considered as a starting QB unless it just looks really bad... our QB situation this year with Lambert and Ramsey was really bad.
You're right. I was just thinking how one thing that is notably different than our situation with Stafford is that if Fromm and Lawrence (really more Fromm since Lawrence is an '18 kid) both come aboard, that gives us more than one super high-profile kid on the roster at QB. Stafford had JT3 and Cox (who was fairly high-rated himself out of high school, but not to this degree). Just makes things a bit interesting.
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We all just want to win, you and I are in the same boat there. I just think we have to be very patient this year and maybe next to get that title that we all want so badly.
No kiddin'! I feel like we've been patient enough already, though.
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 10/10/16 at 4:17 pm to S1C EM
Disclaimer........I don't dislike Fromm and I do like Eason , but this is totally unbiased.
Yes, Fromm threw for 300 more yards than Eason this past weekend, but he also threw 4 interceptions and lost a fumble. His HOCO team got their asses handed to them by Lee County, 55-22. Soooooooo, it seems that only one of these young qb's won this weekend. #therestofthestory
Yes, Fromm threw for 300 more yards than Eason this past weekend, but he also threw 4 interceptions and lost a fumble. His HOCO team got their asses handed to them by Lee County, 55-22. Soooooooo, it seems that only one of these young qb's won this weekend. #therestofthestory
Posted on 10/10/16 at 4:26 pm to S1C EM
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how's Fromm been doing the last few weeks?
He had 5 turnovers is a blowout loss to a lower ranked team a few days ago.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 5:56 pm to djsdawg
I watched Fromm's game against Lee. Solomon and the Lee Dline dominated big time. The wind was also a factor. In spite of the turnovers and the outcome I was really impressed by Fromm. Jake Fromm is going to be a big winner for UGA.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:50 pm to Hobnail
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Awesome? No way, not even close
Well, he has played in 6 games and started 5 (if memory serves). He won one of those on a last second play and should have won another with the same.
Is he as smooth and polished as a junior, no, but there is ample magic here which is absolutely awesome.
Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:54 pm to djsdawg
Eason is the future of this program. He has played well enough prior to yesterday that I am not concerned in any way.
What make you think Fromm would not have the same growing pains as true freshman? Hopefully we set up QB roster where no true freshman is starting again any time soon.
Hopefully Fromm and Trevor Lawrence will battle for the starting spot as redshirt sophomore and freshman respectively when Eason goes pro as the #1 pick after his junior season. That is the best case scenario.
What make you think Fromm would not have the same growing pains as true freshman? Hopefully we set up QB roster where no true freshman is starting again any time soon.
Hopefully Fromm and Trevor Lawrence will battle for the starting spot as redshirt sophomore and freshman respectively when Eason goes pro as the #1 pick after his junior season. That is the best case scenario.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:18 am to lewis and herschel
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Eason looks awesome for a true frosh playing at college footballs highest level... only an idiot would think different.
Call me an idiot then because Eason looks pretty mediocre as a true freshman. He looks like about what you would expect any kid who had played QB at a high level in High School to look like. Nothing special and nothing too troubling. The one area that I am a little shocked at...and I am not a recruiting guru like some of you because following the choices of 17 year old boys is kind of creepy to me...and apparently was something a lot of "experts" said about Eason from the get go is that his mechanics are not solid....they are not what you would see from a kid who had played on a State runner up in Georgia or Florida or Louisiana or Texas...he stares down receivers, throws off balance, and he throws what looks like dying ducks a lot of times. He has looked brilliant...the pass to Ridley against UT was picture perfect and not an easy throw to make....and he has probably lost some much needed confidence because we don't have anyone who can catch a cold at times...but that being said Eason looks like a typically talented freshman who was recruited by almost everyone...I was hoping he would be different and look awesome but that is HARD to do coming from where he did to where he is now....
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:20 am to Pride of Georgia
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Give him time, but I am concerned with our coaching staff's ability to develop a quarterback. I say that based on coaching background, not just this season's results. I think he has potential to be pretty good, I just hope we can develop him and provide him with receivers.
That is a concern of mine also...we may not be the QB developing machine that Mark Richt was early in his days at UGA (and at FSU for that).
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:23 am to DawgsLife
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Not sure i would use Dobbs as an example. he has made some incredibly poor decisions that could have easily cost Tennessee a couple of games. He does seem to have the knack to step up in pressure situations, but so does Eason. It's more about the QB than it is the style of QB. There are plenty of Dual Threats that look awful....just take a look at Auburn, and LSU for examples.
And it has taken him about 9 seasons to do what UT claimed he was going to do from day one...UT has been pretty bad with Dobson at the helm....not as bad as we are but they ain't winning the SEC this year....
Posted on 10/11/16 at 8:40 am to germandawg
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And it has taken him about 9 seasons to do what UT claimed he was going to do from day one...UT has been pretty bad with Dobson at the helm....not as bad as we are but they ain't winning the SEC this year....
Exactly. Dual threats....MOSTLY...add a dimension to the offense. Running. But often what they add in running they take a bit away in the passing area. There are exceptions, like Watson, but mostly if you have a strong running QB, then they are weaker in the passing game. I just prefer leaving the passing game to the QB's and the running game to the running backs. Keeps the QB's healthier, imo.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:25 am to S1C EM
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if Eason doesn't get a ton more consistent.....
This does pose a legit question...how does a kid with an absolute cannon improve accuracy on the deep ball? Is there a technique tweak he needs right now or is it as simple as more reps with WRs with elite speed? Totally agree he'll get better I guess I'm asking to those who are smarter about QB development, by what means? What does a camp like Gruden's do with a young gun like JE who needs accuracy improvement?
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:34 am to Brick67
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This does pose a legit question...how does a kid with an absolute cannon improve accuracy on the deep ball? Is there a technique tweak he needs right now or is it as simple as more reps with WRs with elite speed?
Not an expert, but I know more reps will eventually show up as on-the-field improvement. Has to get used to the guys he's working with and their speed (as well as D1 DB speed, too). The difficult part here is that he may have a slew of new targets coming in next year and will essentially have to go through that process all over again.
Throwing off the back foot needs to get some attention, too. The reality, though, is that it's instinctual. Stafford STILL does it. Staring down receivers is also a problem right now.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:42 am to Brick67
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is it as simple as more reps with WRs with elite speed?
It can be this....but it can be just a matter of having that inner clock and intuition when to throw. Some never improve on their accuracy. We should see improvement next year. If he shows no improvement at all, then it might be he just can't improve his accuracy. It is different for every player. Timing, eyes, feel, intuition. There are a lot of factors that go into accuracy.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:45 am to S1C EM
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The difficult part here is that he may have a slew of new targets coming in next year and will essentially have to go through that process all over again.
This is true. Hopefully HE will have a feel for the speed of elite receivers by then, and it will be a matter of getting used to the new guys.
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Throwing off the back foot needs to get some attention, too. The reality, though, is that it's instinctual. Stafford STILL does it. Staring down receivers is also a problem right now.
Every bit of this is dead on.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:48 am to S1C EM
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Throwing off the back foot needs to get some attention, too.
I have been meaning to bring this up... I cringe every time I see it
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:50 am to S1C EM
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S1C EM
I didn't even read through the thread...you are a better more seasoned poster than this...get your shite together
Posted on 10/11/16 at 9:57 am to SthGADawg
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I didn't even read through the thread.
Okay.
It's not a bad question. You should read through the thread.
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you are a better more seasoned poster than this...get your shite together
Fine, fine. I'll do better.
Posted on 10/11/16 at 10:04 am to King of Cloverhurst
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Throwing off the back foot
Didn't Murray go to Gruden's camp and fix this as I recall? Seems he made some great strides after going to that camp.
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