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Posted on 2/9/14 at 11:57 am to NYCAuburn
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Have you seen how far out it reaches? It kind of laughable to even include those as suburbs. It even includes areas on the ga bama border and goes almost to Macon.
Believe it or not... that's all metro Atlanta... it's suburbs all the way to the Bama line. Anything within an hour drive of Atlanta is now a suburb of Atlanta. People drive over an hour to work in the morning. It's actually pretty normal around here.
What is laughable is that you want to limit the suburbs to what was decided in the 1970's, then call the new calculations laughable.
Why are you here?
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:02 pm to deeprig9
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Believe it or not... that's all metro Atlanta
No it isn't. You are just trying to fit anything to your original incorrect statement.
Do you really seriously believe the metro atl goes out that far? Do you live anywhere near atlanta?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:06 pm to NYCAuburn
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No it isn't. You are just trying to fit anything to your original incorrect statement.
Do you really seriously believe the metro atl goes out that far? Do you live anywhere near atlanta?
I was born in Atlanta in the 1970's. I was raised in metro Atlanta. I graduated from the University of Georgia. But for a brief 3 year stint in Charleston, I have lived in either metro Atlanta or Athens, for my entire life.
What about you?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:09 pm to NYCAuburn
Carollton is 10 miles from the Alabama border. It is a suburb of Atlanta. Check out the WSB traffic reports in the morning. Why would they be giving traffic reports for I-20 out to Carollton if people in Carollton weren't commuting in and out of Atlanta every day?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:22 pm to NYCAuburn
Tell me exactly what your point is.
UGA sucks at recruiting in state because they are just shitty recruiters? Mark Richt is a pedophile and touches the recruits innappropriately during the in-homes? The top talent just doesn't want to spend their college careers in a hostile learning environment?
Up until this year, Rodney Garner was our recruiting coordinator, now he is at Auburn. If our recruiting has flat out sucked for the last ten years, then isn't the man to blame now on your staff?
UGA sucks at recruiting in state because they are just shitty recruiters? Mark Richt is a pedophile and touches the recruits innappropriately during the in-homes? The top talent just doesn't want to spend their college careers in a hostile learning environment?
Up until this year, Rodney Garner was our recruiting coordinator, now he is at Auburn. If our recruiting has flat out sucked for the last ten years, then isn't the man to blame now on your staff?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:33 pm to deeprig9
I live off of Exit 24 on I-20... It's 35mi. to the downtown connector. Bet your arse it's Metro Atl. So is Carrollton, Bremen, Tallapoosa, Buchanan, Rockmart etc on the West side of Atl. It's only 49 miles from the Bama State line to I-285 & only 10mi further to the Downtown Connector...
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:35 pm to deeprig9
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I was born in Atlanta in the 1970's
I thought you went to Harrison?
Nevermind. I thought HHS was built in 2001 for some reason.
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Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:36 pm to dallasga6
Dallas, will NYCauburn concede that he is talking out of his arse?
I'm guessing he'll change the subject or just disappear.
I'm guessing he'll change the subject or just disappear.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:36 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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I thought you went to Harrison?
I was the 1st graduating class that went all 4 years there.
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I actually went 5 years there because in 8th grade, the new middle school wasnt finished yet so we had to go to Harrison ....
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:38 pm to deeprig9
I'm just saying that anyone who lives basically within a hour & a half drive of I-285 from any direction considers themselves to be part of metro Atl...
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:39 pm to NYCAuburn
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Do you really seriously believe the metro atl goes out that far? Do you live anywhere near atlanta?
Metro Atlanta is 22 counties.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:46 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
On that picture, you could easily add Hall and Jackson counties. They are on the 85 corridor and most people that live there are going 85 South Bound in the morning.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:53 pm to deeprig9
It's not metro atl, but if you want to include that in your demographic of atlanta, then the percentage of Uga fandom to the population of that region goes up significantly. Again much larger base compared to the other places you referred to.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:55 pm to NYCAuburn
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It's not metro atl, but if you want to include that in your demographic of atlanta, then the percentage of Uga fandom to the population of that region goes up significantly. Again much larger base compared to the other places you referred to.
The statisticians that come up with the stuff are wrong and you are right.
What are your qualifications? You asked me if I ever lived in metro ATL. It's only fair now that I ask you, and you answer.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 12:55 pm to NYCAuburn
Either way, I don't feel like recruiting instate is our biggest issue. We have the talent to win a national title right now, the biggest issue is the product we've been putting on the field with that that talent. Grantham's 2012 defense for example. All in all, recruiting is still really a crap shoot.
This is what the instate top 15 targets we've missed out on from 2008-2009 (since their careers have recently played out recently) have done:
2008
#1 DT Omar Hunter (UF): Decent career, but was marred by injury for some of it. Went undrafted.
We signed: DeAngelo Tyson. Draw.
#4 WR Josh Jarboe (OU): Ended up at Troy before settling in at Arkansas State. Character issues. Went undrafted.
We signed: AJ Green. Win.
# 5 WR Brice Butler (USC): Decent career, but nothing special at USC. Drafted in 7th round.
We signed: Tavarres King. Win.
#6 DT Brandon Thompson (Clemson): Very good career. Drafted in 3rd round, wish we nabbed him.
We only took 1 DT and it was Tyson, looks like we took the wrong one. Loss.
#10 S Jamoris Slaughter (Notre Dame): Decent career at ND. Drafted in 6th round.
We signed: Bacarri Rambo. Draw. A win talent wise, but a loss from a character perspective.
#12 LB Jarmon Fortson (FSU): Dismissed from FSU, playing arena league or something now.
We signed: Christian Robinson. A win. We actually win this one on character and stability b/c Christian wasn't very talented.
#15 S Terrance Parks (FSU): Decent career, went undrafted. Playing in CFL.
We signed: Bacarri Rambo. Only safety we took. We also took Sanders Commings at DB, so I think we did ok here.
2009
#2 S Greg Reid: Excellent freshman year at FSU, character issues and faded into oblivion. We finished 2nd in his recruitment. We didn't miss much.
We Signed: Branden Smith. He played CB, but similar skill set as Reid as far as PR/KR/WR. Had a disappointing career for #1 instate, but stayed all 4 years and started some. Win.
#4 S Darren Myles (UT): Dismissed from UT.
We Signed: Shawn Williams. Smart. Win.
#6 S Donovan Tate (UNC): Drafted in baseball, we never wasted resources pursuing him.
We signed: Shawn Williams. Smart. Win.
#9 ILB Kevin Minter (LSU): Great career, 2nd round pick.
We signed: Mike Gilliard. Fail.
#10 OLB Eric Fields (Nowhere): Guess he never qualified and flamed out.
#11 RB Drayton Calhoun (LSU): Transferred to MTSU.
We signed: Washaun Ealey. We probably got more production out of him before he transferred, so win.
#12 WR Jamal Rahad-Patterson(Stanford): Contributed some at Stanford toward the end of his career. Undrafted.
We signed: Marlon Brown. Not a great career, but more productive. Win.
#15 WR Michael Bowman (Bama): Processed after being moved to TE.
We signed: Rantavious Wooten (WR) or Arthur Lynch (TE) however you want to look at it. Win.
***There are really two guys out of 15 that looking back I wish we had signed. Brandon Thompson and Kevin Minter. Thompson was more of a 4-3 guy and as it played out, we hired Grantham eventually to run the 3-4, so he's irrelevant.
So, Kevin Minter.
This is pretty much how recruiting plays out and is a good sample of how UGA has recruited the top 15 over the years. Obviously, 2010 would be a black eye, but 2011 would look really good. It has somewhat stabilized since then. Also, it's a good indication of how the guys we've taken from out of state have compared to the guys we could have taken instate. 2012 there is Mike Davis and Kenyan Drake that we "missed out on" from the top 15. We actually chose to sign Gurley and Marshall out of state instead.
2013 looks bad, but we signed 5 of the top 17. We took Ramsey over Dobbs, so 16. We didn't pursue Johnson, Griffin, Robinson, or Dye so 12. Lawson was a GT legacy, so 11. Nkemdiche's brother played at OM, so 10. We dodged a bullet in Kamara, so 9. Bell actually lived in Tennessee, but commuted to GA high school because his mom taught there, so 8.
Signing 5 of 8 guys that panned out/we pursued/had a legit opportunity with isn't phenomenal, but isn't terrible. A coaching change probably hurt us with Adams.
This is what the instate top 15 targets we've missed out on from 2008-2009 (since their careers have recently played out recently) have done:
2008
#1 DT Omar Hunter (UF): Decent career, but was marred by injury for some of it. Went undrafted.
We signed: DeAngelo Tyson. Draw.
#4 WR Josh Jarboe (OU): Ended up at Troy before settling in at Arkansas State. Character issues. Went undrafted.
We signed: AJ Green. Win.
# 5 WR Brice Butler (USC): Decent career, but nothing special at USC. Drafted in 7th round.
We signed: Tavarres King. Win.
#6 DT Brandon Thompson (Clemson): Very good career. Drafted in 3rd round, wish we nabbed him.
We only took 1 DT and it was Tyson, looks like we took the wrong one. Loss.
#10 S Jamoris Slaughter (Notre Dame): Decent career at ND. Drafted in 6th round.
We signed: Bacarri Rambo. Draw. A win talent wise, but a loss from a character perspective.
#12 LB Jarmon Fortson (FSU): Dismissed from FSU, playing arena league or something now.
We signed: Christian Robinson. A win. We actually win this one on character and stability b/c Christian wasn't very talented.
#15 S Terrance Parks (FSU): Decent career, went undrafted. Playing in CFL.
We signed: Bacarri Rambo. Only safety we took. We also took Sanders Commings at DB, so I think we did ok here.
2009
#2 S Greg Reid: Excellent freshman year at FSU, character issues and faded into oblivion. We finished 2nd in his recruitment. We didn't miss much.
We Signed: Branden Smith. He played CB, but similar skill set as Reid as far as PR/KR/WR. Had a disappointing career for #1 instate, but stayed all 4 years and started some. Win.
#4 S Darren Myles (UT): Dismissed from UT.
We Signed: Shawn Williams. Smart. Win.
#6 S Donovan Tate (UNC): Drafted in baseball, we never wasted resources pursuing him.
We signed: Shawn Williams. Smart. Win.
#9 ILB Kevin Minter (LSU): Great career, 2nd round pick.
We signed: Mike Gilliard. Fail.
#10 OLB Eric Fields (Nowhere): Guess he never qualified and flamed out.
#11 RB Drayton Calhoun (LSU): Transferred to MTSU.
We signed: Washaun Ealey. We probably got more production out of him before he transferred, so win.
#12 WR Jamal Rahad-Patterson(Stanford): Contributed some at Stanford toward the end of his career. Undrafted.
We signed: Marlon Brown. Not a great career, but more productive. Win.
#15 WR Michael Bowman (Bama): Processed after being moved to TE.
We signed: Rantavious Wooten (WR) or Arthur Lynch (TE) however you want to look at it. Win.
***There are really two guys out of 15 that looking back I wish we had signed. Brandon Thompson and Kevin Minter. Thompson was more of a 4-3 guy and as it played out, we hired Grantham eventually to run the 3-4, so he's irrelevant.
So, Kevin Minter.
This is pretty much how recruiting plays out and is a good sample of how UGA has recruited the top 15 over the years. Obviously, 2010 would be a black eye, but 2011 would look really good. It has somewhat stabilized since then. Also, it's a good indication of how the guys we've taken from out of state have compared to the guys we could have taken instate. 2012 there is Mike Davis and Kenyan Drake that we "missed out on" from the top 15. We actually chose to sign Gurley and Marshall out of state instead.
2013 looks bad, but we signed 5 of the top 17. We took Ramsey over Dobbs, so 16. We didn't pursue Johnson, Griffin, Robinson, or Dye so 12. Lawson was a GT legacy, so 11. Nkemdiche's brother played at OM, so 10. We dodged a bullet in Kamara, so 9. Bell actually lived in Tennessee, but commuted to GA high school because his mom taught there, so 8.
Signing 5 of 8 guys that panned out/we pursued/had a legit opportunity with isn't phenomenal, but isn't terrible. A coaching change probably hurt us with Adams.
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 2/9/14 at 1:04 pm to deeprig9
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The statisticians that come up with the stuff are wrong and you are right.
The statisticians don't even define it as metro, so yes I am correct. Msa vs csa, what do the first letters represent?
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You asked me if I ever lived in metro ATL
I asked, because most the vast majority of people from atlanta would not consider themselves from atlanta. When you have significant rural space between two regions, you have separated the two from being attached in a metropolitan definition. Do they have a small percentage that is associated with atlanta? Yes. But no where near areas that are actually in the metropolis.
I am not from atlanta, but have lived here for years, my wife is born and raised in Atlanta. She laughed at the notion that carrolton was in metro atl as well.
Given the circumstances y'all protect the borders quite well, just look at the state of florida.
Posted on 2/9/14 at 1:12 pm to NYCAuburn
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When you have significant rural space between two regions, you have separated the two from being attached in a metropolitan definition.
I agree. What significant rural space exists between Atlanta and any of the outlying suburbs that you don't consider to be part of the metropolis?
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I am not from atlanta, but have lived here for years,
If your son grew up to be a big buck linebacker, and had an offer from UGA and Auburn, where would he sign?
Posted on 2/9/14 at 1:14 pm to NYCAuburn
Here's a list by school showing how many in-state players each team signed & the % of total class...
School... In-State Talent... % of Total Class
Alabama... 7 of 27... 25.9%
Arkansas... 5 of 23... 21.7%
Auburn... 7 of 23... 30.4%
Florida... 14 of 24... 58.3%
Georgia... 11 of 21... 52.3%
Kentucky... 4 of 28... 14.2%
LSU... 12 of 23... 52.1%
Miss. State... 15 of 23... 65.2%
Missouri... 8 of 28... 28.5%
Ole Miss... 14 of 27... 51.8%
S. Carolina... 9 of 21... 42.8%
Tennessee... 10 of 32... 31.2%
Texas A&M... 16 of 22... 72.7%
Doesn't add a lot to the convo, but it's kinda interesting non the less...
School... In-State Talent... % of Total Class
Alabama... 7 of 27... 25.9%
Arkansas... 5 of 23... 21.7%
Auburn... 7 of 23... 30.4%
Florida... 14 of 24... 58.3%
Georgia... 11 of 21... 52.3%
Kentucky... 4 of 28... 14.2%
LSU... 12 of 23... 52.1%
Miss. State... 15 of 23... 65.2%
Missouri... 8 of 28... 28.5%
Ole Miss... 14 of 27... 51.8%
S. Carolina... 9 of 21... 42.8%
Tennessee... 10 of 32... 31.2%
Texas A&M... 16 of 22... 72.7%
Doesn't add a lot to the convo, but it's kinda interesting non the less...
This post was edited on 2/9/14 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/9/14 at 1:15 pm to MenloDawg
Excellent write-up Menlo Dawg. I'm going to add you to my smart person list.
But first, I need to know if you took the bulk of information from another article or if you put all that together yourself.
But first, I need to know if you took the bulk of information from another article or if you put all that together yourself.
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