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Posted on 12/14/16 at 6:50 am to mmmmmbeeer
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If what the intelligence community says is true, which seems assured given consensus from all 17 intelligence departments, Trump's presidency becomes indisputably delegitimized in the history books
Who told you this? Fake news sites like Slate, CNN, The Atlantic, WaPo?
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:55 am to DawgCountry
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quote:If what the intelligence community says is true, which seems assured given consensus from all 17 intelligence departments, Trump's presidency becomes indisputably delegitimized in the history books Who told you this? Fake news sites like Slate, CNN, The Atlantic, WaPo?
Exactly. The liberal news media have been the champions of blatant bias and fake news to the extreme this election cycle. But hardly surprised that they are doubling down with counterpunches in response to their guilt.
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Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:26 pm to GurleyGirl
I love how they keep saying the election was tampered with... 
I think what they meant to say is that their dictators lies were revealed and all of their criminal activity and negligence was brought out for everyone to see. They lost not only the White House, they lost the House of Representatives and Senate.
I am still waiting on them to pack their bags and move to Canada like they said they would do.
I think what they meant to say is that their dictators lies were revealed and all of their criminal activity and negligence was brought out for everyone to see. They lost not only the White House, they lost the House of Representatives and Senate.
I am still waiting on them to pack their bags and move to Canada like they said they would do. 
Posted on 12/14/16 at 12:41 pm to GurleyGirl
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consensus from all 17 intelligence departments
Having been in the Business at one time, I was interested to find out what agencies now comprised these "17 intelligence departments":
Air Force Intelligence, Army Intelligence, Central Intelligence Agency, Coast Guard Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency, Energy Department, Homeland Security Department, State Department, Treasury Department, Drug Enforcement Administration, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Marine Corps Intelligence, National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Agency, Navy Intelligence and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
I can assure you that at least a dozen of these had absolutely no role in determining the source of the leaks of Podesta and the DNC. It's not in their job description.
And the statement issued supposedly under all their names is circumstantial evidence at best:
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"The recent disclosures of alleged hacked e-mails on sites like DCLeaks.com and WikiLeaks and by the Guccifer 2.0 online persona are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts."
That's it. So we have Wikileaks saying the source is not Russian and we have basically James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence saying "well, it LOOKS like Russians".
(You may recall Clapper, when asked under oath “Does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions, or hundreds of millions, of Americans?” answered disingenuously “No, sir… Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently, perhaps, collect. But not wittingly.”
This turned out to be a falsehood. "My response was clearly erroneous - for which I apologize," Clapper wrote in a letter to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.)
So forgive me if I don't give Clapper's circumstantial at best evidence much weight.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:01 pm to DragginFly
Has anyone noticed that the Dems have not argued against the content of the emails that were released? That's because they were all true.
The Dems whining about the Russians is tantamount to a cheating husband blaming the private investigator that caught his cheating on his divorce. Umm, the PI didn't cause the divorce ... your behavior did.
In other words, the poor Dems are upset that their lying, cheating ways were exposed for everyone to see. And now want to blame those that exposed the lying and cheating ways instead of accepting that their own behavior (and the chosing of the only candidate that could lose to Trump) was to blame.
News flash to Dems ... Trump got less votes than Romney or McCain and still beat Clinton. That should tell you everything you need to know about CLINTON. She was a horrible candidate and people who voted Dem before decided to sit this one out or vote for someone else. Once again, look within instead of blaming everyone and everything else.
Quit your whining, quit trying to change the results, take your medicine and go home.
The Dems whining about the Russians is tantamount to a cheating husband blaming the private investigator that caught his cheating on his divorce. Umm, the PI didn't cause the divorce ... your behavior did.
In other words, the poor Dems are upset that their lying, cheating ways were exposed for everyone to see. And now want to blame those that exposed the lying and cheating ways instead of accepting that their own behavior (and the chosing of the only candidate that could lose to Trump) was to blame.
News flash to Dems ... Trump got less votes than Romney or McCain and still beat Clinton. That should tell you everything you need to know about CLINTON. She was a horrible candidate and people who voted Dem before decided to sit this one out or vote for someone else. Once again, look within instead of blaming everyone and everything else.
Quit your whining, quit trying to change the results, take your medicine and go home.
Posted on 12/14/16 at 1:15 pm to MacDawg
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Has anyone noticed that the Dems have not argued against the content of the emails that were released? That's because they were all true.
the most ignored part of the whole story. attack the messenger, not the message. because the message is damaging and cost them the election
but RUSSIANS!
Posted on 12/14/16 at 8:36 pm to DawgCountry
Trump can re-open the case, but its not going to end how they want.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 8:28 am to DawgCountry
And then there is this:
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Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 26m26 minutes ago
If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House waite so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?
MAGA
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Donald J. Trump ?@realDonaldTrump 26m26 minutes ago
If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House waite so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?
MAGA
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:50 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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In fact, no one has ever won a Presidential election while losing the popular vote by as wide of a margin as Trump lost. Yet he's on a victory tour, talking about his "landslide victory", his "historical victory".....and yet he won 3 toss-ups (MI, WI, PA) that gave him the electoral college by a TOTAL of 80k votes. These 80k votes, of course, are why the Russia/Wikileaks and Comey OCT surprise are big fricking deals. If what the intelligence community says is true, which seems assured given consensus from all 17 intelligence departments, Trump's presidency becomes indisputably delegitimized in the history books. History will look upon this as a coup.
So you're saying the election would have been more fair if the public was LESS INFORMED ABOUT FACTS?
Is that what you're saying?
Because that's all that happened. There was no vote tampering. There was no bribery of election officials. There was no stuffing of ballot boxes (except in favor of Democrats). There was no fraud.
The only thing that the release of the emails did was inform the public of actual things that happened inside the DNC and HRC's campaign.
So you're saying this was unfair? It would have been more fair for the public to be less informed?
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:15 pm to BeefDawg
let the snowflake melt
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:08 am to HTDawg
Lemme guess.... Expecting people to properly identify themselves when they vote to prevent the contamination of our voting process is racist? Right.......?
Please. Educate us.
As for Hillary, has their been a more corrupt candidate for president.... Ever? Trump is no darling but Hillary's entire campaign was nothing but corrupt.
Please. Educate us.
As for Hillary, has their been a more corrupt candidate for president.... Ever? Trump is no darling but Hillary's entire campaign was nothing but corrupt.
Posted on 12/16/16 at 11:58 am to bpatters69
These idiots just repeat talking points and spew fake news. They have no substance or thought out arguments
Posted on 12/16/16 at 1:12 pm to BeefDawg
We're not supposed to know the truth....we're supposed to act on the propaganda they feed us. If we look behind the curtain it's a problem.
This is the origin of the "fake news" talking point. Any news that doesn't fit the narrative is fake and sources of that need to be dealt with.
This is the origin of the "fake news" talking point. Any news that doesn't fit the narrative is fake and sources of that need to be dealt with.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 1:57 pm to DawgCountry
well well well look how the turntables
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:28 pm to deeprig9
quite the bump
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:53 pm to DawgCountry
Was this before we called voting irregularities “baseless”?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:19 pm to Peter Buck
No election laws should ever be passed pre election in an election year. Once inside the election period all laws should go in to effect after the next election.
Voting is important. You should have to be verified, request a single ballot if absent, and id'd. All mail in should have signature verification. Every ballot should ve serialized and all accounted for at the end.
Buddy who has an apartment in Vegas got 5 unrequested ballots sent to him for past residences of his unit.
Voting is important. You should have to be verified, request a single ballot if absent, and id'd. All mail in should have signature verification. Every ballot should ve serialized and all accounted for at the end.
Buddy who has an apartment in Vegas got 5 unrequested ballots sent to him for past residences of his unit.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:26 pm to lewis and herschel
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Buddy who has an apartment in Vegas got 5 unrequested ballots sent to him for past residences of his unit.
So naturally he filled them all out for Trump and mailed them back in, right?
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