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re: Carson Beck
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:08 pm to Dawg4Life47
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:08 pm to Dawg4Life47
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Beck either needs to figure out how to put air under that TE post down the middle or we need to quit calling it because he misses badly the same way every time
Well, if the play you are talking about to Delp…and you call it a post, then Delp ran the incorrect route. Delp ran straight up the hash on a vertical route with man coverage in trail and a safety to the outside. It is more of a seam route. There was no safety in the middle so it is ok to favor it inside on that. I give Beck some fault for accuracy and a better throw is a TD. I also still put fault on Delp. He tracked it late and didn’t adjust to the ball. That ball was catchable in my opinion.
I can explain to you what a post route is if you like.
Posted on 10/2/23 at 8:10 pm to armtackledawg
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Bowers bailed him
How is Beck throwing the ball to Bowers him “bailing him out”?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 6:56 am to SquatchDawg
When a receiver has to do a 180 degree turn in the opposite direction of his route cut and snag a brilliant 1h catch to prevent a possible Int on a really bad pass (and for a 1st down on 3rd and long), and then make another 1h catch on another bad pass (although this one was called back due to penalty), and then convert yet another 3rd and long while getting pummeled instantly after the catch, and then score from 45 yards on a short slant route, when we all know the offense was sputtering the previous 3.5 quarters….
One might consider this as being bailed out?
One might consider this as being bailed out?
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 6:57 am
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:19 am to BeefDawg
When there are 3 defenders in the area and you are describing the 1 spot the defender isnt... then it is a good throw.
QBs turn around receivers all of the time.
If the receiver is running an out, turning him around changes his momentum to cut upfield (as opposed to carrying his momentum out of bounds).
If a receiver is running into a defenders zone(like Bowers was), the QB can protect his by changing his momentum for the catch.
QBs turn around receivers all of the time.
If the receiver is running an out, turning him around changes his momentum to cut upfield (as opposed to carrying his momentum out of bounds).
If a receiver is running into a defenders zone(like Bowers was), the QB can protect his by changing his momentum for the catch.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 7:21 am to BeefDawg
We have established that you don’t like Beck. That much is clear.
What I don’t understand is how you have somehow forgotten all of Stets bad passes where a receiver “bailed him out”, or the silly, stupid INTs he threw early on. You seem to forget that by the time he got a chance to start, he was older than Beck is now.
You have selective memory based on a profound (and I would say unfair) dislike of the current QB. Everything is his fault. He fumbles punts/kicks and plays defense. He drops balls that hit him in the hands. He is in charge of who gets injured and how severe the injuries are. He decides how many starters we will be missing and for how long. Hell, he even plays defense for the other teams, and when one of their players has a great effort play and beats one of our guys…shite, that’s Carson’s fault too.
Why not just say “I hate Carson Beck and I literally wish ANYONE else was the QB at UGA.”, because that’s what all of your posts really mean.
What I don’t understand is how you have somehow forgotten all of Stets bad passes where a receiver “bailed him out”, or the silly, stupid INTs he threw early on. You seem to forget that by the time he got a chance to start, he was older than Beck is now.
You have selective memory based on a profound (and I would say unfair) dislike of the current QB. Everything is his fault. He fumbles punts/kicks and plays defense. He drops balls that hit him in the hands. He is in charge of who gets injured and how severe the injuries are. He decides how many starters we will be missing and for how long. Hell, he even plays defense for the other teams, and when one of their players has a great effort play and beats one of our guys…shite, that’s Carson’s fault too.
Why not just say “I hate Carson Beck and I literally wish ANYONE else was the QB at UGA.”, because that’s what all of your posts really mean.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:22 am to DawgHolliday
Some TV coaches don't realize that a QB may see a defender close enough to a WR to intercept a ball if he leads the WR. So he throws the ball behind the WR for a completion. Not every pass is meant to be a TD.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 8:26 am to mmmmmbeeer
A couple of Beck's overthrown deep balls to wide open receivers could've been completed if the receivers had not slowed down. When receivers are that much wide open they try to become easier targets by not going full out. More air under the ball would give the receiver time to adjust. It's simply a case of the QB and WR not seeing the same thing.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:20 am to Whiznot
I don’t understand why one can’t say that Bowers was clutch as was Beck. Beck had great numbers and insane 3rd down numbers. He made a couple of clutch throws with people on his face. Beck is not perfect, but he deserves credit.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:43 am to Peter Buck
Well, Beck threw the ball as if it was more of a skinny post instead of a laser over Delps head. It wasn't even close to catchable watch it again
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:52 am to Dawg4Life47
It wasn't a good route.
It wasn't a good throw.
Those happen.
Move on to the next play (and hope it isn't an INT)
It wasn't a good throw.
Those happen.
Move on to the next play (and hope it isn't an INT)
Posted on 10/3/23 at 9:54 am to meansonny
He went 23 for 33 which is 70%….it’s easy to focus on the missed attempts but that’s a pretty damn good day IMO.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:02 am to Dawg4Life47
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Well, Beck threw the ball as if it was more of a skinny post instead of a laser over Delps head. It wasn't even close to catchable watch it again
You don’t throw a laser when you have man in trail . You throw it over the man in trail since the receiver has the advantage of seeing the ball and the defender does not. I just watched it again 6 times. Delp does not track it and adjust his route until the ball is almost on him.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:12 am to Dawg4Life47
Beck threw the Delp deep ball to the inside because the defender was in the line of flight. I blame Delp just as much as Beck for that incompletion. Delp could have veered to open space or, maybe, adjusted to the ball. The pass wasn't far out of reach.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 10:37 am to SquatchDawg
quote:In his FIRST road start, At Auburn. Which is a snake pit if you let them get excited. (Which they were, being up 10-0).
He went 23 for 33 which is 70%….it’s easy to focus on the missed attempts but that’s a pretty damn good day IMO.
That throw to RaRa that setup a TD when he a had a free running LB in his face should be required viewing for anyone questioning Beck
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:19 am to dhuck20
I will also add that if anyone ever says “Beck locks on to the first receiver “ , immediately discount anything they ever say ever. Assume they don’t know frick all about football or watch the games. Beck is far from perfect and has plenty to improve on, but that is not one of them.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:29 am to Peter Buck
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You don’t throw a laser when you have man in trail . You throw it over the man in trail since the receiver has the advantage of seeing the ball and the defender does not. I just watched it again 6 times. Delp does not track it and adjust his route until the ball is almost on him.
Stetson always did a great job of this. I can't remember that many deep balls he missed on.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 11:43 am to Rex Feral
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Stetson always did a great job of this. I can't remember that many deep balls he missed on
No doubt that Stetson was great at recognizing the coverage and putting the ball in a spot for our guy to make a play by throwing the guy open.
Beck most certainly could have put this ball in a better spot to help 4. 4 could definitely have tracked it better and likely would have caught it if he did.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:23 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 10/3/23 at 12:59 pm to Dawg4Life47
Delp needs to be publicly caned.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 2:21 pm to Dawg4Life47
No he doesn’t. He is running straight and then dives to the left. As that ball comes out a receiver needs to move towards the ball’s path. If he is 1 yard to his left he catches it. A yard and a half and he catches it in stride.
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