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re: Can we start talking about Clemson?

Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:22 am to
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:22 am to
I will say this...the Clemsux game will be a nice litmus test of where we are and where we are going this year. Its pretty much a must-win for our ream to not only get the confidence rolling, but to get Mason's head right and hopefully solidify what appears to be a complete buy-in by our defense on what Pruitt is selling.

This game is a lot more important than some UGA fans act....no its not an SEC game..but its a fricking ACC team and they are coming to UGA...in the evening...opening game...this is as hype as it gets for our guys. They need to come out and dominate this shite from start to finish. We come in and let Clemsux beat us in our own stadium...then sulk on that for a few weeks before heading to cock-land...we gonna have some problems.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21841 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:22 am to
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And we returned essentially zero starters at RB from 2011 to 2012, but obviously 2012 was better.


Obviously you cannot compare starting a young RB vs starting a young DL (Clowney excluded as he was once in a lifetime player).

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The whole comparison was centered around Clemson...how Pruitt/FSU did against Clemson comparing to how we might do this year.


Then you must take into consideration the huge drop off that Clemson will take on the offensive side of the ball......

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1. FSU's DL in October was almost surely better than ours will be to open.


Hrmmm, I still am not 100% sold on this one...could be damn close


Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:27 am to
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Didn't lose a lot on D. Front 7 gonna be stout. Secondary is young but 4 and 5 stars (sound familiar)

This^^
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Beasley will try to eat Mason if Theus can't stop him. Guy can get after the QB

and this ^^^ are my only worries.

I'm eager to see if our line will be improved. I think it will have alot to do with whether Mason can get the ball off quickly enough. I think he will but may start slow like the GT game.

On a side note about the SC game, I watched the replay of the Mizzou and SC game. When Connor Shaw was out it seemed they couldn't get anything done. They had to bring in an injured Shaw to get back into that game. This season they will not have him or Elington plus alot of their defensive key players are gone so...Just something to think about.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 7:51 am to
We faced Clowney (top draft pick), Michael Sam (SEC POY), Ealey, Beasley, Lawson, and Dee Ford last year. We were in every single one of those games we played, despite being overmatched on the OL. The games we faced those guys that we did lose was due to our defense being laughably horrible or injuries.

Beasley is good and he'll create problems, but yall act like he's going to singlehandedly beat us. He won't.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:03 am to
Here is the stat you kids need to look at. Clemson converted 44.7% of their 3rd downs in 2013.., Which is elite vs the res of the NCAA last year...Their offense did a good job holding onto the ball and turning the field.

Do we think Clemson will be able to do that this year?

What happened last year when the Clemson's offense could not dictate the flow of the game?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25886 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:05 am to
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What happened last year when the Clemson's offense could not dictate the flow of the game?

They got beat by like 50.

Excellent point
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:24 am to
Another nest stat is that roughly 50% of Sammy Watkins production came on first down.

Actually, 50 times on first down, Watkins caught a football. That is catches, not attempts. What did that threat do to defenses and how did that open up the running game?
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 8:38 am to
IIRC they struggled with maryland and nc state as well. By the way Stoudt got hurt in practice the other day.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:11 am to
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By the way Stoudt got hurt in practice the other day.


any other details?
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20423 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:12 am to
The system is good, but they will miss Boyd and those WR's more than they think. I can see us missing some assignments but if we limit the big plays I think we win.

Agree with WG on Beasley. He is good, he will probably sack Mason. But he's not a guy you have to account for on every down like Clowney. Dude faced some piss-poor OL's in the ACC. We face 4 Vic Beasley's in a regular SEC season.
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 9:17 am
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:18 am to
The guys on t-net were talking about it. One of the linemen rolled up Stoudt's leg. They didn't seem too concerned about it though.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:19 am to
The paper said it was minor, but the paper gets info from their ad on those type matters.
Posted by AirDawg
The Great State of Calm
Member since Feb 2013
2015 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:33 am to
Not losing sleep over it WGDawg/PeterBuck...I just know Mason starts off slow b/c he wants to hold onto the ball too long. This is probably due to his fear of INTs. Look at the last two games of last season again. You'll see it.

Decent front seven (CU) + (Decent to Okay line play (UGA) + delayed QB release (UGA)) = Slow start and cause for cautious optimism.

We were in every game thanks in large part to Aaron Murray and he's gone. Mason struggled against a subpar GT team and and an Nebraska. Not saying he won't be great. Just not ready to crown him Murray yet either. I'm just practicing a little cautious optimism.

Now if CMB does what I expect him to do and coaches him up to fix the issues he saw last season then personally I feel like there is not a game we can't win and win big but I'm not quite ready to go shouting it from the roof tops.

Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:37 am to
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Not saying he won't be great. Just not ready to crown him Murray yet either


the hell are you talking about? Nobody on earth is crowning him the next murray. Everybody realizes if he's half as good as murray we should be grateful. There's no reason to doubt Mason either though. He threw for basically 300 yards a game the last 2, and if not for crappy support against Nebraska he's 2-0. He also led us down from 20-0 on the road in his first start. That's gutsy. And if you were questioning his talent..he didn't shatter state of GA passing records in HS by accident. Mason can play.

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I feel like there is not a game we can't win and win big but I'm not quite ready to go shouting it from the roof tops.


Nobody is shouting anything from the rooftops (except firewind). I don't think hardly anyone expects us to go undefeated.

All I'm saying is that I don't think Clemson will be all that tough of a matchup. I'm 10 times more worried about SC the next game than I am Clemson.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
9914 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:38 am to
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No, not really. Our LBs are better than theirs from last year, but their secondary is light years ahead of where we are now, and they had an elite DT that could singlehandedly change a game.

Now, I'm not saying we suck or anything. I expect us to do very well against Clemson. But our defense in game 1 this year isn't really a good comparison to FSU's defense in game like 6 from last year.


Okay, you can stop punching me in the head anytime now....
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:42 am to
I'm not punching you barbs, no offense intended. Just saying that even though Pruitt is a mastermind, half a season's worth of experience goes a long way. I'm sure FSU's defense in their opener was a bit different than it was by the time they played Clemson.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:43 am to
Mason did ok at the end of last year with arguably minimal RB support. If he can get into a play action scenario, he will be more than good enough.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86544 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:45 am to
A few things working against Mason last year:

-He has one week to prep as the starter, compared to 9 months this time around.
-He had a 90ish% Gurley and no marshall at RB.
-Was without Mitchell and JSW
-Both his starts were away from home, one in a pouring rain
-He likely knew that any wins would have to be on him, with as deplorable as our defense was.

I don't think we're going to see nearly the same HM as we did in 2013.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:51 am to
I forgot about the rain... That and cool WX def was a factor
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21841 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 9:54 am to
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I don't think we're going to see nearly the same HM as we did in 2013.


While I agree with all of the bullets you made, but he still doesn't have the 15 yard out, front end zone back shoulder throw, or the zip to put it in between multiple defenders.

Hopefully he will be a little more relaxed back in the pocket.

Not saying anyone here is like this, but it's going to be a disappointing year for some Dawg fans that don't see Hutson perform like Murray.

I still think we go 11-1 this year and Hutson will manage the game, but the Only thing we need from HM is to Not throw the crucial ints..... Ala McCarron
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