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Posted on 4/9/16 at 2:44 am to 83dawg
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Above Lambert,and Ramsey.
Then again, so is Stephen Hawking. It's a low bar.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 8:54 am to WG_Dawg
Was Stafford an EE? I honestly don't remember. I know it's not game-time experience, but it's time learning the system and working with the team, getting a feel for the system. If Eason had that and Stafford didn't, it could put him ahead of the curve. I'm not saying Eason will set the world on fire in game 1 as a true freshman, but he could be better prepared as an EE with an entire spring and off-season under his belt.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:41 am to crispyUGA
Don't quote me on this, but I believe Stafford was an EE. In fact, I want to say that was when I became aware that there was such a thing as an early enrollee. I could be wrong. Check with my wife...she has the comprehensive list of every time I've been wrong in the past several years.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 9:49 am to crispyUGA
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Was Stafford an EE
He was. And I think he was more talented than Eason. He also played in a talent laden high school state so he had less acclimating to do. But Eason will most likely have a better offensive line early on and when Chubb is healthy he'll have a deeper running game.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 10:29 am to IT_Dawg
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This was never a question in anyone's mind....the question is can he run a college offense this quickly. Can he handle college DL rushing him. Can he pick up audibles and read college defenses. No one ever thought he didn't have a better arm.
Yep, but I doubt if our coaches will be expecting a Freshman QB to be doing many audibles. If Eason can simply execute the plays and look for secondary receivers as needed, he should be fine. Stafford struggled as a Freshmen also and I don't expect much more from Eason. I would rather go with Eason's potential and give him experience rather than rely on 2 guys who we know can't make all the throws.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 11:28 am to GurleyGirl
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rely on 2 guys who we know can't make all the throws
By all accounts Ramsey has NFL arm talent and it's not like Lambert can't make the throws. He made plenty of good ones last year. Throwing Eason to the wolves right away is asking for his confidence to get destroyed.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 12:12 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Lambert's problem is that he has no confidence in himself. Look at how hesitant he is the pocket. He sits there and double clutches the ball until the receiver is no longer open. Ramsey has almost the exact opposite problem, in that he has a ton of faith in his arm and it gets him in trouble. Let's hope Eason can be confident yet prudent.
Also, as far as the Stafford comparison goes, let's hope Eason falls on the work-ethic scale closer to Murray than he does to Stafford.
Also, as far as the Stafford comparison goes, let's hope Eason falls on the work-ethic scale closer to Murray than he does to Stafford.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 12:13 pm to SneakyWaff1es
I agree with you mostly but I kinda think the earlier he sees real game speed the quicker he can adjust to it. Just a thought.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 12:57 pm to RedFive
That's true but that can work both ways. I think getting lit up at real game speed is what got Lambert his happy feet. Eason probably had the highest ceiling on the team but before him that was Ramsey. You know, our first team punter. It takes more than arm talent.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 3:12 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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He can get it done when he has time. His issue is when there's a pass rush.
Agreed. He seemed fine when he had time, but put a little rush on him and it spelled trouble.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 3:13 pm to DawgsLife
On a side note, my kid says that HW34 is in town today.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 3:20 pm to Peter Buck
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On a side note, my kid says that HW34 is in town today.
Still one of the top 5 running backs ever, in my mind, and I would believe that even had he not played for UGA. What he could do on a football field was unbelievable.
Posted on 4/9/16 at 6:29 pm to DawgsLife
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Agreed. He seemed fine when he had time, but put a little rush on him and it spelled trouble.
I dont know that I agree with this. I think he is prone to happy feet regardless of pass rush. Hes afraid to stand tall in the pocket and take the big hit. The OL did decent in pass-pro most of the season last year but, he was running for his life half the time when he had 4-5 seconds with a clean pocket. Too slow to read and too quick to abandon the play and start scrambling. Just not a gamer and wasnt really as careful with the football as his INT numbers would indicate. He had a half dozen sure picks dropped. final td/int ratio could easily have been more in the 1.5/1 range if not for fumble-fingered defenders.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:19 am to DawgHolliday
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I think he is prone to happy feet regardless of pass rush.
Peyton Manning had the happiest feet of all time. Worked out for him. I'm not saying Eason won't end up being the answer at some point but I'd like to see whichever guy gives us the best shot at winning. I find it hard to believe it's an 18 year old even if he's more talented.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 9:25 am to SneakyWaff1es
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whichever guy gives us the best shot at winning. I find it hard to believe it's an 18 year old even if he's more talented.
It's a fine line though. It's not like we're talking about if Mason or Cox were back for another year since both those guys were pretty solid...Lambert's biggest thing going he has for him is low interception number but after watching him play a full year he simply doesn't make a defense respect the pass. Eason will have more turnovers, but he at least lets us open the playbook and present the defense with a higher variety of throws that they wouldn't see from lambert.
Also, and you don't really want to tailor a decision around this it's more of a secondary level observation, but are we doing ourselves as a program the best we should by playing lambert all year with eason getting some reps here and there then go into '17 with a still relatively "new" QB, or do we take our lumps in year 1 and go into '17 primed and ready?
In 06 if we had played Joe T all year (let's assume healthy) we may or may not have won anohter game, but at least with stafford getting thrown into the fire it paid off majorly in 2007.
Whether we have eason or lambert playing most of this year, we're still looking at probably 10-2 regular season as the ceiling. We just play too many good teams to expect to go 11-1 or better in year 1 with so many new faces. Is it worth playing the senior to get to 9-3 instead of 8-4 this year, if it means having to start over again next year?
Posted on 4/10/16 at 10:23 am to DawgHolliday
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dont know that I agree with this. I think he is prone to happy feet regardless of pass rush. Hes afraid to stand tall in the pocket and take the big hit. The OL did decent in pass-pro most of the season last year but, he was running for his life half the time when he had 4-5 seconds with a clean pocket. Too slow to read and too quick to abandon the play and start scrambling. Just not a gamer and wasnt really as careful with the football as his INT numbers would indicate. He had a half dozen sure picks dropped. final td/int ratio could easily have been more in the 1.5/1 range if not for fumble-fingered defenders.
And this very well could be correct. It was my impression that a rush caused him to panic, but your assessment could very well be correct. I never really studied him, to be honest. I usually tend to watch receivers, running backs, and don't pat TOO much attention to the QB or OL, other than as a casual observer. The OL, however is an interesting part of the offense to watch, though.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:15 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Peyton Manning had the happiest feet of all time. Worked out for him.
The best example of Lambert's case of "happy feet" was the Vandy game. Vandy never really got a big time pass rush on Lambert, but he was rushing his throws all day anyways. He never gave himself a chance by setting his feet and making a confident throw.
Peyton didn't have this problem. He almost always got his feet set. Peyton's problems came when the weather got shitty.
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:26 am to VADawg
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Peyton's problems came when the weather got shitty.
Lord,the Broncos set an NFL record for TD's and points in '13.I'm assuming he had some pretty shitty weather
in Denver especially in November and December.
This post was edited on 4/10/16 at 11:37 am
Posted on 4/10/16 at 11:49 am to RD Dawg
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Lord,the Broncos set an NFL record for TD's and points in '13.I'm assuming he had some pretty shitty weather
in Denver especially in November and December
64 degrees and sunny for the AFCCG that year.
The year before, they lost to Baltimore at home in their first playoff game and it was below 10 outside. Peyton didn't play well.
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