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re: Brendan Langley transferring.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:33 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:33 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Not even Bama fans are near as bad
yeah they are..tried to kill one coach (the guy that started georgia states program)
Curry I think..
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:33 am to Spaceman Spiff
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How can anyone in their right mind get upset when the cards aer more than stacked against them? We know that there is a damn good chance that we are gonna get raped several times next year. However, if we come out of next year with a similar record - knowing full well what is in store personnel wise - would the fans be satisfied? Honestly, it is no wonder why UGA fans are the laughing stock of CFB. Not even Bama fans are near as bad.
I think Georgia fans have it a bit worse than others. The media has part of the blame in this. The biggest aggrivations coming from this team are the constant losses to teams we should beat, and the one game a year we don't show up for. We just never quite get 75% of the way up the hump. When you take a look back at this past season, you really have to scratch your head. I have realistic expectations next year. I think 6-6 on the low, and 9-3 on the high. I just want us to beat the teams we should, and if we lose at home to Alabama, Tennessee and Auburn on the road, I can understand those losses. If we screw around and lose to teams we shouldn't lose to, people will be angry all over again.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:48 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Honestly, it is no wonder why UGA fans are the laughing stock of CFB. Not even Bama fans are near as bad.
That's my point, though, they're all bad. USC fans are already mad one year into Sarkisian. Texas fans were mad at Strong first half of the season. VT fans are mad at their legend. LSU fans want Miles fired every year. Every fan base does this is my point. That was my earlier point too. We all know next year will be rough but if Georgia goes 8-4 or goes 6-6 the fans will be livid regardless of circumstances. 2010 was the same way. So was 2009. But years were teams in flux but that doesn't change anything.
Bama fans? shite, dude, you have seen them lose their shite at 10-3.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 7:55 am to tylerdurden24
Can't blame him. Good luck to him wherever he goes.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:01 am to Damn Good Dawg
There were Bama fans on here melting HARD and calling for Saban to fired after they lost the Sugar Bowl to Oklahoma. That wasn't a WVU type situation which put OU on the map, they lost to an entrenched, historical powerhouse program in a BCS bowl and wanted their coach fired for it.
Almost every Power 5 fan base melts down and wants their coach fired if they don't reach the Title game. Welcome to the big-money era of college football.
Almost every Power 5 fan base melts down and wants their coach fired if they don't reach the Title game. Welcome to the big-money era of college football.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:09 am to crispyUGA
Exactly. We can argue the validity of these meltdowns till we are blue in the face but what holds true is that we are not the only fan base to do this.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:30 am to Damn Good Dawg
So let me get this straight, one of the reasons people on this board say we need to keep the clown show coaching staff here is for the recruiting but then the recruiting classes turn to shite in some form or fashion. Seems like the vortex in my toilet bowl.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:33 am to JRDawg77
That vortex is your mind.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:55 am to Damn Good Dawg
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That's my point, though, they're all bad. USC fans are already mad one year into Sarkisian. Texas fans were mad at Strong first half of the season. VT fans are mad at their legend. LSU fans want Miles fired every year. Every fan base does this is my point.
But don't you think they are just silly? Doesn' it seem stupid for them to act that way? I've never understood why people believe if you scream for the coach to be fired after every loss it makes you a good fan.
All it does is chase away recruits. If they think a coach is in danger of being fired they don't want to go there. Had we fired Richt after the losses this year, the great class we have put together would melt away. And, if we continue, as a fan base to call for Richt's head, it will only serve to scare recruits away. We do more harm to our program than we help it. I don't care how many other fan bases do this...we can only control ourselves.
I think we are all frustrated with the three losses. South carolina and Tech mainly, for me, because we had an excellent chance of winning both games late.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:00 am to crispyUGA
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they lost to an entrenched, historical powerhouse program in a BCS bowl and wanted their coach fired for it.
While true, lets put it in perspective. then losing to oklahoma last year was much like us losing to Florida this year. A game that shuld have been won...easily.With the top rated recruiting class in the nation the last four years in a row (and about to make it 5) every loss Alabama has is a loss they should have won. They have the best coaching and players in the nation. Shoot...people want to make a big deal over what Richt makes? Saban makes more than TWICE what Richt makes. Think about that. Yes, he has won 3 National Titles at Alabama. But with their talent they should win every year. They not ony reel in the best talent....they KILL everybody in recruiting. It's not even close.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:04 am to JRDawg77
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So let me get this straight, one of the reasons people on this board say we need to keep the clown show coaching staff here is for the recruiting but then the recruiting classes turn to shite in some form or fashion. Seems like the vortex in my toilet bowl.
One class. Man....I am amazed. You guys first criticize Richt because he pusts so many kids in the NFL without winning the Title, then you criticize him for one class not meeting expectations.
Also, keep in mind that these guys are sophomores. Some of them will flourish in the next year or two.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:05 am to Damn Good Dawg
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Exactly. We can argue the validity of these meltdowns till we are blue in the face but what holds true is that we are not the only fan base to do this.
Well. If everybody else is doing it, then it must be the right thing to do.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:07 am to DawgsLife
The point is all fan bases melt. All fan bases call for their coaches head when they shouldn't. The people melting think that they're alone and that no other team or fan base goes through this. We are not alone. UGA fans continuously say that all we do is choke and we can never win big games, but that's simply not true. Sure we choke, yes, but so does everybody else. It's not all we ever do, re: Clemson, Mizzou, and AU this year. What do you think those fan bases felt like after each of those games? Aside from Clemson, I think it's safe to say that we should have lost those games, but we didn't. The only thing that career melters care about, though, is when we lose games we should have won. They don't care that we just as often win games we should have lost.
How do you think A&M fans feel right now? LSU? Moo State? Ole Miss? AU? UF? USCe? You think all of these teams are happy with where they are? Hell, I'd say we're not looking too bad at 9-3 all things considered. As already mentioned in this thread, it's right where most of us thought we'd be at the beginning of the season, and that was before we lost our Heisman candidate. How many of you at the beginning of the season thought we'd be looking at a 10 win season when Gurley was out more than half of it?
Looking at the conference, recruits are probably pretty impressed with where we stand vs most others.
How do you think A&M fans feel right now? LSU? Moo State? Ole Miss? AU? UF? USCe? You think all of these teams are happy with where they are? Hell, I'd say we're not looking too bad at 9-3 all things considered. As already mentioned in this thread, it's right where most of us thought we'd be at the beginning of the season, and that was before we lost our Heisman candidate. How many of you at the beginning of the season thought we'd be looking at a 10 win season when Gurley was out more than half of it?
Looking at the conference, recruits are probably pretty impressed with where we stand vs most others.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:29 am to tylerdurden24
Langley was listed as a 4 star DB on Rivals but slow at 4.61 speed. And at just 6'1", 180 lbs. and assuming that time in the 40 is legit, I can see why he didn't work out as a WR or in the Secondary. Regardless, I wish him well.
My criteria goes something like this. If you are on the slow side like Langley, you better be a tall/big possession type receiver like Michael Bennett. As for DB's, you better have at least 4.5 speed to have a chance of keeping up with elite receivers.
My criteria goes something like this. If you are on the slow side like Langley, you better be a tall/big possession type receiver like Michael Bennett. As for DB's, you better have at least 4.5 speed to have a chance of keeping up with elite receivers.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:37 am to davesdawgs
40 time is so overrated. It's just a small part of the puzzle. There are a lot of guys playing DB in the NFL who don't run a 4.6.
Langley not playing didn't have anything to do with any physical deficiency.
Langley not playing didn't have anything to do with any physical deficiency.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:47 am to Crowknowsbest
I do not recall a top 15 combine performance for s or cb above 4.49 the last 3 years.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:50 am to Peter Buck
Richard Sherman ran a 4.56. That was several years ago. He'd probably run worse than that now
ETA- Bashaud Breeland ran a 4.62 has been a stud for the Skins as a rookie
ETA2- I'm not saying it doesn't help to be really fast. It obviously does. It's just not the only thing, and fast is relative
ETA- Bashaud Breeland ran a 4.62 has been a stud for the Skins as a rookie
ETA2- I'm not saying it doesn't help to be really fast. It obviously does. It's just not the only thing, and fast is relative
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:25 am to Crowknowsbest
I hear Ya... 4.6 and height need a strong football mind and great ball skills
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:38 am to UGAalum08
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The point is all fan bases melt. All fan bases call for their coaches head when they shouldn't. The people melting think that they're alone and that no other team or fan base goes through this. We are not alone.
I understan that. But that still doesn't mean we have to. How many times do you read that a recruit decides not to go to a certain school because the coach is on the hot seat? Every time we do a melt it hurts recruiting. We can justify it any way we want...but the bottom line is, it hurts recruiting.
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The only thing that career melters care about, though, is when we lose games we should have won. They don't care that we just as often win games we should have lost.
You are correct. Don't misunderstand me. I am not trashing or criticizing people on the board. Everybody on here has the perogative to react to losses any way they see fit. But, quite frankly, melting is a very immature way to handle things. It does no good and does only harm. I have seen career melters (as yu put it) call out people saying if they don't melt they are the problem.
The kind of reasoning that says you are a good fan because you melt down after every loss is dumb. It does nothig to help and only does harm. How much harm? Who knows. But it does do harm. quote:
How do you think A&M fans feel right now? LSU? Moo State? Ole Miss? AU? UF? USCe? You think all of these teams are happy with where they are?
I would think not. And I don't expect us to be happy. But there are constructive ways to andle disappointment. Like calmly discussing what can be done to fix the problem (After sanely discussing what the proble is) and how it can be fixed. But screaming, "Fire Richt!" after every loss solves nothing and scars recruits.
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Looking at the conference, recruits are probably pretty impressed with where we stand vs most others.
All we have to do is look at our commit list and know they like the direction Georgia is going. Want to see it all slip away and we lose potentially the best class Georgia has ever had? Melt/fire Richt. Nothng like a coaching change or coaching instability to make recruits walk away.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:42 am to Crowknowsbest
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40 time is so overrated. It's just a small part of the puzzle.
I defer to your insight and no doubt speed is just one part of evaluation but I doubt it is a "small" part of the equation for either WR's or DB's. In fact, I would guess that size/speed are probably the first thing an NFL evaluator looks at.
Let's take Amari Cooper for instance. He is also 6'1" but is 20 lbs heavier than Langley and has 4.41 speed. Sure there are a lot of other factors that make Cooper one of the best receivers in college football but without that speed he would likely not be at the same level.
One thing that intuitively makes sense to me, if a WR with 4.4 speed is matched up against a defender with 4.61 speed and the WR runs straight down the field, the DB is not going to be able to stay with him without interfering with the WR. I recognize that there are bump and run masters in the NFL but in college if you are hitting the receiver while the ball is in the air directed to said receiver, the DB is often going to get a interference call against him. And I will take that situation all day long.
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