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re: atlanta: When/If the $hit Hits the Fan............

Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:17 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:17 am to
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I just got a 4x4 Prius so I should be okay, right guys?


Well, let's just say you won't have to worry about Global Warming, unless that is what activates the virus. So, if it breaks out you can use up all the gasoline etc you want. You can use any kind of lightbulb, eat the foods you want as long as it lasts.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:19 am to
This isn't a Walking Dead thread. That show is lame.......

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Absolutely. IF the population just sat in the cities. However, they would, I expect move out slowly as food becomes more scarce.

So, you just expect everyone is going to hold hands and form an orderly and polite single-file line for the migration out of the city after the last croissant from Starbucks is eaten??

Seriously: How are you going to get out when 6 million people are simultaneously trying to do the same? Where will you go? How far will you get without water and no food in your belly? OR even if by some small chance that you're lucky enough to survive and escape...........how long would you or most atlantans last when faced with having to survive off the land without Siri to there to help you?
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:23 am to
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But only if it hits at the same time. if it originates in the suburbs and spreads there first.....as I said....whole cities and villages were wiped out in the Black Plagues before reaching a large city.
Yea it definitely terrorized the countryside but once it hit the large cities is when the devastation really multiplied exponentially because of more rapid spread.

And the healthcare system is different nowadays too. If you go to a little hospital in a rural area somewhere with some crazy illness that is rapidly progressing and no one knows what it is, you're getting transferred to a bigger tertiary care center...typically in a large city. And just the way people travel daily, it'll get spread to a large city really fast if it is infectious enough to cause the type of disaster we are talking about.

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Yes. I remember that. But, the question for me is...what activated it? I mean..people died for thousands of years without turning so what caused it to happen then?
It hasn't been revealed in the show and from what people who have read the comics have told me, it isn't revealed there either.

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I don't believe it could ever happen, but stuff like that is always interesting to debate.
Oh yea me either. It just makes for interesting discussions. Especially when it comes to disease outbreaks. Infectious disease and its effects on history is a really interesting subject. It's fascinating to me that such tiny "uncomplicated" (relative to multi-cellular organisms) things like bacteria and viruses have been able to do what they have. And they always will, it won't ever be able to be stopped just by nature of how they work.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:24 am to
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How are you going to get out when 6 million people are simultaneously trying to do the same?
Seeing the line at the MARTA station will be like when you see someone at the Chik-Fil-A drive through on a Sunday
Posted by ladyluckUGA
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:27 am to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:28 am to
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So, you just expect everyone is going to hold hands and form an orderly and polite single-file line for the migration out of the city after the last croissant from Starbucks is eaten??


No. But I also wouldn't expect everyone to jump up and rush out of the city at the same time, either. Some would leave as it begins and as food became more scarce they would leave at varying times. Not everybody is going to run out of food at the same time.

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Seriously: How are you going to get out when 6 million people are simultaneously trying to do the same? Where will you go?


Why would they leave simultaneously? Altogether now...1,2,3 go?

If you are not using the Walking dead/Zombie Apocalypse as an example, what is your scenario? that would help determine how people would react. If we are talking about a virus/Pandemic situation more people would stay in the city because of the hospitals. But...I've already shown where most of these spread in the suburbs before spreading to the cities.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:28 am to
Who do you think would die first?

The inner city gangsta-poser tough guy who doesn't even know that hamburgers are made out of cows?....or the typical atlantan office worker-bee who has never even walked two miles consecutively?
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:29 am to
I will send all of you a post card from St. Croix...
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:30 am to
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Some would leave as it begins and as food became more scarce they would leave at varying times. Not everybody is going to run out of food at the same time.

How long could you live off of the non-perishable food in your pantry right now?

3, maybe 4 days?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:33 am to
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ea it definitely terrorized the countryside but once it hit the large cities is when the devastation really multiplied exponentially because of more rapid spread.



Definitely it would spread faster in a large city because of proximity and numbers, but the countryside was already wiped out.

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And the healthcare system is different nowadays too. If you go to a little hospital in a rural area somewhere with some crazy illness that is rapidly progressing and no one knows what it is, you're getting transferred to a bigger tertiary care center.


However...don't forget Ebola. Remember the woman who promised to Quarantine herself for 21 days and was seen going through a drive through window buying fast food? She was not locked away in a hospital in spite of the dangers, and we already know what happened in Africa due to Ebola.

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And just the way people travel daily, it'll get spread to a large city really fast if it is infectious enough to cause the type of disaster we are talking about.



Of course you are right. With airplanes, cars, buses it would spread to large cities much faster. In fact, I doubt if any place would be safe. Big city or country.
Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:35 am to
People are stupid. They are especially stupid when in a panic. When/if the shite hits, you can count on at least 80% of the city going full retard, which pretty much screws most of the remaining 20% who don't. I'd wager 75% of ITP folks don't make it beyond Gwinnett.

The outer suburbs will have better luck - that's who those of us in the "sticks" get to deal with. I'll be organizing a chainsaw brigade to fell trees at Baldwin, Cornelia, and Cleveland to block 441, 365, and 129. Good luck getting in, douchebags.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 10:36 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:36 am to
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One thing country people know how to do, and that's band together and help each other in a time of emergency. Sure, there would be some who would make that difficult, but for the most part the hicks would band together, be heavily armed, have military backgrounds, have been hunting since elementary school, be heavily motivated to defend property they dearly love, and they would know the country the city slickers are walking through like the back of their hand.



I thought the reason people lived in rural areas was because they were rugged, self reliant types. Now they are supposed to be some sort of quasi-commune living hipsters who pitch in to help one another?

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have military backgrounds


So they would know how to keep up a filing cabinet and how to throw unlimited amounts of money and labor not covered by labor laws such as overtime and OSHA regs at any problem that comes along? Military training would be the worst thing they could possibly bring to the table. Hell it takes 30 e-4's to keep the leaves picked up around the base commanders residence or keep the paint scraped off a ship. Military training consists of solving problems with unlimited resources and finding ways to keep those resources flowing.

Knowing the lay of the land would be a huge benefit however.

What is really funny is how rural folks have this sense of self reliance when in fact without copious amounts of diesel fuel and support from the chicken / beef company that they have a contract with very few people in the sticks would have a clue how to plow a field by hand. To this off with the fact they there is no such thing as a crop in the US that is not engineered and has been hybridized to the point that it won't grow without the assistance of an Ag Engineer and yall will be as fricked as anyone.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:36 am to
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How long could you live off of the non-perishable food in your pantry right now?

3, maybe 4 days?



If need be probably 3-4 weeks. IF I knew something like this was going on, I would cut down on what I eat. but you have a LOT more food in your pantry than you realize. Plus, you would go to neighbors that might be dead and/or stores. I would go loot a store early on before others got to them, I would think. As I said....it really depends on what type of threat we are facing as to how we would react. Sickness, zombies, nuclear fallout...it depends.
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:39 am to
WHy is everyone so fascinated with this subject these days? WTF is wrong with us? We live in the best word man has ever known and we are convinced the end is near.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:42 am to
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Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:42 am to
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WHy is everyone so fascinated with this subject these days?


Man has always been fascinated by the end times and what it would be like. Look at movies and books from many years ago and it has always been a popular subject.

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We live in the best word man has ever known


Not sure I would agree with this. But it is definitely the best world I know of right now.

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we are convinced the end is near.


I am not convinced the end is near. But I am not convinced that it is not near, either.
This post was edited on 2/28/15 at 10:43 am
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:49 am to
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germandawg

And here comes the long-winded thread killer.............

Posted by JacketFan77
Tiger, GA
Member since Nov 2012
2554 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:52 am to
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To this off with the fact they there is no such thing as a crop in the US that is not engineered and has been hybridized to the point that it won't grow without the assistance of an Ag Engineer and yall will be as fricked as anyone.


This is a flat-out lie.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:53 am to
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If you are not using the Walking dead/Zombie Apocalypse as an example, what is your scenario? that would help determine how people would react.

The power is out for the entire eastern U.S.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/28/15 at 10:54 am to
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This is a flat-out lie.

Prepare to be buried in words.
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