re: atlanta: When/If the $hit Hits the Fan............

There are people who wouldn't mind living in an apocalyptic world like a survivor on a remote island. I am not one of them. Id rather head on up to heaven than live off the land the rest of my life. Sure, it'd be fun/exciting for a while, but there is a reason I'm not a bucked-tooth fricking hick from the desolate places of Georgia. I don't live ITP, so could care less about big city life too, but the luxuries of 2015 would be too big to miss. Heaven sounds better.

PS - if there happens to not be a heaven afterall, I'm guessing I wouldn't miss be alive either

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Won't be pleasant for the hicks in the sticks when droves of armed people come walking into their area and take over.

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Good luck with that......

If you are lucky enough to get out...and don't get murdered, raped, or eaten by cannibals......you'll probably die from Starbucks withdrawals anyway.

While all true you are still assuming that whatever (Virus, zombieism, nuclear attack) would happen in a large city. I've shown that many of the worlds major pandemics have originated outside of the cities before spreading to the cities. The smaller cities were decimated before spreading into the larger population bases. I am trying to argue that Jeff's premise that cities are bad and we are safer in suburbia are ill founded.

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, a few families living near a decent water source (even a small but steady stream) would have much less trouble gathering, filtering, transporting water supply for the much smaller group, etc.

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You are assuming that a pandemic or whatever strikes equally. History shows that typically it does not. If those families in the wilds are struck first it won't matter what their proximity to water is. It would be worse for the sickness to strike the outlying areas. (As history shows it typically does) IF they are wiped out first, then the people in the cities would be trapped trying to get out of the cities due to clogged roadways, etc and your premise would be correct.

Think about it. Our missle silos are out in the midwest far away from large city centers. Our enemies aren't necessarily going to attack the large cities....they are going for our nuclear arsenal and atomic power plants which are not in large city centers. By going far away from the big cities you would probably be putting you and your family at greater risk.

You can talk about a scenario, but those scenarios are based on what you have seen on TV and in movies, when in reality history shows just the opposite usually happens. There is an old saying..."Those that do not know history, are doomed to repeat it."

Actually...all we can do is guess at what might happen. As I said, I don't anticipate any of this happening...on the other hand, the Balck Plague was not anticipated, either.

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"Well, Billy Bob Jefferson Cooter IX, your paw thought it was a good idea to shoot at a group of twenty men after getting blitzed on Bud Light and yelling something about Priuses."

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That ain't how it works in the sticks, slick.

You'd better bring more than 20 ignorant city folk if you plan on 'taking over' anything outside the city limits.

One thing country people know how to do, and that's band together and help each other in a time of emergency. Sure, there would be some who would make that difficult, but for the most part the hicks would band together, be heavily armed, have military backgrounds, have been hunting since elementary school, be heavily motivated to defend property they dearly love, and they would know the country the city slickers are walking through like the back of their hand.

Twenty fleeing atlantians.

You'd be much better off coming to the sticks with your hat in your hands willing to learn how to work for once and become a useful member of this new agrarian society you used to mock by digging sewer trenches with a short handled shovel.

I think in the case of the walking dead, everyone has the
Virus. You turn when you die, so contaminants are not the issue. Just don't die

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You are assuming that a pandemic or whatever strikes equally. History shows that typically it does not. If those families in the wilds are struck first it won't matter what their proximity to water is. It would be worse for the sickness to strike the outlying areas. (As history shows it typically does) IF they are wiped out first, then the people in the cities would be trapped trying to get out of the cities due to clogged roadways, etc and your premise would be correct.

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An epidemic would wreak much more havoc in a city since everyone is packed together. And given the ease of travel nowadays, even if the first outbreak of a disease is in a rural area, it'll end up in a more urban area really fast and will spread much faster there (assuming we are talking about a disease that is infectious enough to result in an end of times type scenario). By time people realize the threat of the disease, it'll already be in the big city.

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am trying to argue that Jeff's premise that cities are bad and we are safer in suburbia are ill founded.

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I don't think Jeff comes across as a fan of suburbia either

I just got a 4x4 Prius so I should be okay, right guys?

If I get a virus, I'm coming straight for y'all. Don't be mad.

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In the Walking Dead, they've said that everyone is already infected (they don't know how it started as far as I know) and when people die, they turn since the virus (or whatever, but has to be a virus) is already in them. That was what was going on at that CDC lab where the guy had studied his wife and showed reactivation in her brainstem when she died and reanimated.

ETA: like DawgCountry said above

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Yes. I remember that. But, the question for me is...what activated it? I mean..people died for thousands of years without turning so what caused it to happen then? I don't believe it could ever happen, but stuff like that is always interesting to debate.