Started By
Message
re: 2018 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.) - Back to that #1 class
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:10 pm to SumterCoDawg
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:10 pm to SumterCoDawg
quote:
He's going to need to recruit at an elite level for 15 years before we can officially make that determination.
Are you implying the Mark Richt recruited at an elite level?
2
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:12 pm to RhodeDawg
quote:
And the poster above also mentioned an elite level.
I'd just qualify that Richt recruited at a level between "high" and "elite."
I'd say he recruited at a "very high level, sometimes elite." It was in the development of that talent and/or use of that talent that he lacked.
Kirbs is recruiting at a similar or better level (thus far). Can he develop it and use it better? I certainly hope so. If I was the AD at this particular point and I ignored all other possible variables and different scenarios I'd say the next 2 years will determine Kirby's future as the coach.
Richt did develop QBs very well though.
Richt thinking recruiting offensive lineman was a priority. Skill players get you nothing without the beef. His best offensive line was the one Donnan left him in 2002.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:20 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:
His best offensive line was the one Donnan left him in 2002.
Dave Andrews and company would disagree with you.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 5:22 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:
Kirbs is recruiting at a similar or better level (thus far). Can he develop it and use it better? I certainly hope so. If I was the AD at this particular point and I ignored all other possible variables and different scenarios I'd say the next 2 years will determine Kirby's future as the coach.
Richt did develop QBs very well though.
Richt thinking recruiting offensive lineman was a priority. Skill players get you nothing without the beef. His best offensive line was the one Donnan left him in 2002.
I don't think CMR ever recruited at an Elite level. IMO that involves elite OL and lots of them. This is where CKS has a significant edge over CMR in recruiting. We don't need a Todd Gurley or KM if our O-Line is great. Beauty is I think we can have both now. Question is can CKS coach....cause CMR could (for the most part)
Posted on 6/27/17 at 7:14 pm to WorkinDawg
Good lord. We sign a 5* RB and now we're still debating how well CMR recruited 
Not directed at you WD
Not directed at you WD
Posted on 6/27/17 at 9:40 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:
Are you implying the Mark Richt recruited at an elite level?
Are you implying that you can't pick up sarcasm?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 11:00 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:
Are you implying the Mark Richt recruited at an elite level?
I think he was taking a shot at me, for this comment:
LINK
I said if Kirby recruits well at UGA for 15 years in a row, then I'll say he's a consistently good recruiter. I said that because another poster insisted that Kirby's prowess as a recruiter is proven beyond a doubt, and I was suggesting that more time is required to establish that as fact.
I didn't really specify 15 years as a minimum requirement for being deemed a good recruiter, just that it would be sufficient. The 15 years comment was in the context of a previous post in that thread, delineating our recruiting success since the year 2000. But, in the rudimentary world of internet debate, my statement was interpreted without regard to context, so I guess I'm stuck with it.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 6/28/17 at 4:42 am to crispyUGA
I remember this but, you can't say on signing day that year you wanted Gurley more than Marshall.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 5:54 am to RunLindsayRun
Some people can.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:24 am to RunLindsayRun
quote:
you can't say on signing day that year you wanted Gurley more than Marshall.
I can say whatever the frick I want...its an anonymous message board
Posted on 6/28/17 at 6:41 am to RunLindsayRun
I lived in NC at the time. Had the chance to see both players in a high school game. Gurley was a 3* going into his senior year. Much like Chubb he played in a smaller classification and didn't have as much early notoriety. I'm no expert talent evaluator, but after seeing him live I remember telling anyone who would listen that he was the most exciting running back prospect that year. Towards the end of the year, he put up 200 yards on a sprained ankle and had a dominant all star circuit so he got his 4th star before it wrapped up.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:20 am to RunLindsayRun
quote:
I remember this but, you can't say on signing day that year you wanted Gurley more than Marshall.
I liked Gurley and Chubb more than Marshall and Michel. not because I KNEW they would be better, but I just prefer the big physical backs, It just happened to work out the way it did.
And that is why I like Zeus and do not care for Harold Joiner. Joiner is big, but seems to stay away from contact and goes down on first contact. I am not saying he will not be good. Those are just my impressions from his highlight film. (I used him because he was mentioned as being a lean to us at one time in this thread)
It is also I loved Master Teauge. he looks like a bruiser with some speed. I think he will be a very good back in college. I hated to lose him. I am thrilled to get Zamir White, as he seems to have all the intangibles....(Speed, vision, balance, power)
Had we missed on White and gotten Teague, though, I think we would have been in good shape anyway, though.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:28 am to DawgsLife
I also have reservations about Joiner.
James Cook, though. If we could get him, I'd be pretty pumped.
James Cook, though. If we could get him, I'd be pretty pumped.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:08 am to Crowknowsbest
I wouldn't mind not signing another rb this year if we get Cain next year.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:29 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:
I also have reservations about Joiner.
James Cook, though. If we could get him, I'd be pretty pumped.
Cook is not the big bruising back I typically like, but that's ok. he has good balance, speed and vision that is so crucial for a smaller type back needs. he also ran through some tackles and did not go down on first contact, which I like a lot. While Sony Michel has gotten much bigger and stronger, Cook reminds me of him in a lot of ways.
Oh! And Cook seems to be able to catch the ball out of the backfield, too. So, yes. I am with you on Cook. he would be nice to have. I don't think we can pull him and would be surprised if he flipped, but....stranger things have happened.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:29 am to MikkUGA
We won't get Cain with White on board. I think he's said as much in the past.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:32 am to MikkUGA
This mornings 247 VIP notes indicated UGA leads for Fields, Hill, Salyer and Tyreke. Add in Zamir, this class could resemble the 2017 class. Big news!
On Fields, it sounds like it will come down to UGA and Auburn. At least that's what the Mods are hearing.
On Fields, it sounds like it will come down to UGA and Auburn. At least that's what the Mods are hearing.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:40 am to Glory, Glory
quote:
On Fields, it sounds like it will come down to UGA and Auburn. At least that's what the Mods are hearing.
Auburn will be tough to beat for him. If Stidham has a big year, he will probably leave Auburn, and that would leave it wide open for Fields to walk in and start. Their Offense seems tailor made for him, too.
Our situation looks more crowded with Eason for one more year (after this) and Fromm there, too. Add to that, that we haven't used a DT for awhile....honestly, if I were Fields, I would go to Auburn. But, who knows what a kid thinks. Maybe he comes to us.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 8:42 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:53 am to DawgsLife
I see your point but I respectfully disagree. Outside of a generational talent such as Cam, Gus has had zero success coaching up QB's. Cam spent one semester at Auburn so he came in as a polished player. I think Auburn will be good this year, but if they go 8-4 again, they will be on the market for a new coach.
UGA's QB depth chart is not desirable, but if Fields is as good as advertised he'll sit one season and battle Fromm for the starting job. Both bring different intangibles to the table. I'm a big fan of Fromm but hes the next in line based on the lack of depth. He hasn't even taken a snap in a real game. The last time we had a DT QB we won the SEC, so it's not as if we haven't had success in that area.
UGA's QB depth chart is not desirable, but if Fields is as good as advertised he'll sit one season and battle Fromm for the starting job. Both bring different intangibles to the table. I'm a big fan of Fromm but hes the next in line based on the lack of depth. He hasn't even taken a snap in a real game. The last time we had a DT QB we won the SEC, so it's not as if we haven't had success in that area.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 9:02 am to Glory, Glory
The pitch to Fields vs. Auburn is this:
1) There's no reason a dual threat QB can't succeed in a pro-style offense.
2) If you want to play in the NFL, you're eventually going to have to run a pro-style offense regardless. Might as well get a head start on that.
3) You will have every opportunity to compete for the starting job as a RSFr. or TrSoph. You could play as a freshman in certain packages.
4) No one runs an offense like Auburn's in the NFL.
5) Malzahn has never successfully developed a QB he recruited out of HS.
6) You get to play for your home state, and your parents can come see you and your sister in one trip.
1) There's no reason a dual threat QB can't succeed in a pro-style offense.
2) If you want to play in the NFL, you're eventually going to have to run a pro-style offense regardless. Might as well get a head start on that.
3) You will have every opportunity to compete for the starting job as a RSFr. or TrSoph. You could play as a freshman in certain packages.
4) No one runs an offense like Auburn's in the NFL.
5) Malzahn has never successfully developed a QB he recruited out of HS.
6) You get to play for your home state, and your parents can come see you and your sister in one trip.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 9:03 am
Page 68 of 502
Latest Georgia News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News