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re: 2016 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)

Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:06 pm to
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I think if UNC and SMU switched what they did, they would still have the exact same punishments they have right now.

Indeed.

It is 100% about money and only money. It's corrupt as hell, but that's the deal. Players get hosed, not to "protect the purity of the game," but because any dollar you pay them is a dollar that doesn't go to the NCAA, conferences, or schools.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:12 pm to
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You want to know why they're not going to crush UNC?


Oh I know. Same reason they won't even touch bama, they're too much of a golden child. I remember in the early 2000s around all the albert means stuff hearing media people say that if that institution/team was named something other than alabama, they'd potentially be looking at the death penalty. I know they'll protect the blue bloods, but ole miss? gtfo.

Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:12 pm to
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What blows my mind is how it hasn't been caught in a serious way yet. I mean, it's been happening since probably the frickin 70s and it's only gotten/getting bigger.


Two things:

1. The NCAA is not in the business of policing schools or serving the best interest of the student athlete. Period. Sometimes they do one and the other but it's usually just coincidence when it happens. The NCAA and its endless committees are made up of Universy Presidents, ADs, Assistant ADs, etc from all of the member institutions. The only paid members that work in the headquarters in Indianapolis are Emmert, his direct cronies like Stacy Osborne, and their band of lawyers and wannabe lawyers looking to make a name for themselves. And they only exist in that space because the University Presidents voted to put them there (and, recently, to keep them all there under Emmerts thumb for another 3 years).
Make no mistake, the NCAA serves the interests of the University Presidents and them alone. And every one of them runs a massive business venture on a campus near you that uses Athletics as its primary advertising arm.

2. Even if the NCAA was invested in trying to catch cheating (it's not), it couldn't possibly hope to ever do so unless/until someone screwed up or spoke out (which is the only time/only reason they have for doing anything now). They have no subpoena power and they're not about to shut whole programs down for lack of cooperation or being forthright. Plus, as technology evolves so too do the abilities and means by which offenders can carry out their business. I swear it was a whole new world the moment the disposable cell phone and untraceable gift cards came about; talk about game over.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:14 pm to
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ole miss


Just don't get caught. Simple as that. Auburn and Clemson have perfected the art of just not getting caught. We joke around but those frickers have turned dirty business into an art form; we may hate them because it hurts us but you have to credit them for playing the game very, very well.

I'm not too sure Ole Miss has learned how to not get caught. First rule of any of that stuff is to not take food off the big dog's table. And they're taking food out of the mouth's of a lot of bigger dogs than them which is why folks other than MSU are angling to get them busted for even the most innocuous shite
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:15 pm to
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Umm. it's their fricking job?


Eh. Their job is to protect the brand of college sports. To do that, you do NOT go looking for scandals, you simply handle them when they arise.If someone in the media reports it, or some jackass posts it it on twitter, or it ends up on OTL, then you investigate. Not before.

EDIT for autocorrect
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Glory, Glory
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:19 pm to
We’re on the same page
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:21 pm to
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unless/until someone screwed up or spoke out


so how do we explain that special a few years back where that white auburn OL went on TV (outside the lines?) and did a frickin televised interview about them cheating? I guess the NCAA did a brief, cursory look into auburn and said "eeeeh, can't find anything"? Hell that probably is how it went down, but it's just frustrating that that organiztion is so incompetent yet at the same time so powerful.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46421 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:27 pm to
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I guess the NCAA did a brief, cursory look into auburn and said "eeeeh, can't find anything"?


Pretty much. They likely looked into it briefly, realized they weren't going to get anyone to corroborate the story and no evidence was going to be found (Pat Dye and his UGA education taught them well), and just said frick it, not worth the time and effort. Plus at that point I think the NCAA had just gotten done investigating Cam and came away with nothing so I'm sure it was a headache to think about re-opening shite with Auburn.

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it's just frustrating that that organiztion is so incompetent yet at the same time so powerful.


I find it more frustrating that they are so steadfastly dishonest about what they are and who they serve. The NFL is an evil fricking corporation but at least they're mostly honest about what they are and who they serve. The NCAA makes a show out of lying about what it does and why and THAT is infuriating.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:09 pm to
Didn't scan up to see if there was discussion on DR about DR. Big visit tomorrow. Heard an interview with him this week that sounded promising. I think Stanford and ND are out. ND because of the weather (he said he hated cold). Stanford's too far. He decommitted from Bama for a reason. I feel pretty good about Eason and Nauta talking UGA up to him and landing his commit.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 10:13 pm to
Hadn't seen anything recently. Any link or was on the radio? Good news if true, particularly if we're looking at pushing Mecole to the defensive side of the ball.
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:11 am to
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Didn't scan up to see if there was discussion on DR about DR. Big visit tomorrow.


Kipp on 247 said he is not visiting this weekend.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 6:22 am to
Visit would be next weekend
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:20 am to
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Visit would be next weekend


going to Bama or is he down to one visit left?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:33 am to
not sure
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:36 am to
I believe he has two left

Has taken OVs to Cal, ND, and Tech

A lot hinges on his SAT score that comes back on Feb 11...if he thinks he can get accepted at Stanford that will be one of the OVs
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:54 am to
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.if he thinks he can get accepted at Stanford that will be one of the OVs

he can't take an OV until he gets accepted. If that Stanford OV happens, whether or not he visits UGA is irrelevant because he's headed west.
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:22 am to
Right. I should have been clearer. I meant that if he thinks he can get accepted of his score on the 11th he will save an OV and there is one left for UGA or Bama.

Obviously if he then was not accepted he would have an OV available, but at that point I bet he doesn't use it. Just my feeling.

If I had to guess, I still think he ends up at ND, but there's a lot of golf left.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:26 am to
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he can't take an OV until he gets accepted

This is accurate. Stanford doesn't shell out the bucks to bring guys on campus unless it's already been confirmed they can get in. With that said, here is some info (TIFWIW) from a Notre Dame board:

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from a Stanford source of mine:

Here's what I believe to be true: Robertson has always been an extreme longshot academically and all hope failed when he didn't retake the SAT the first two opportunities this fall in Oct and Nov. Instead, he took visits to Cal and Alabama those weekends (easy to confirm both test dates and visits). So, Stanford effectively stopped recruiting him some time ago.

Then in early January Robertson started talking publicly about needing 80-100 points on SAT to qualify for Stanford, and it was confirmed that our coaches had resumed contact in January. I don't know why, but it is possible Robertson took the Dec SAT and scored well enough for both sides to think he was at least in the ballpark.

It is not believed he's submitted his application (basically five essays), so for him to end up at Stanford he would need to get a big bump on his SAT (unlikely) and then work to complete a very difficult application for an admissions decision (the writing samples would be a factor). And this would take considerable time. If the application file (test scores, grades and essays) was borderline, an interview with the Dean of Admissions would also be likely. In short, it is possible, but incredibly unlikely he ends up here.



Dunno how accurate this info is, if at all, but figured I'd share. I bolded Alabama, as I don't recall whether he took an unofficial visit there and I'm pretty certain he never took an OV there, just Cal, ND, and Ga Tech so far.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9411 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:28 am to
Has this interview been discussed? After reading it last week I thought he was for sure going to be a Dawg.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 8:29 am
Posted by BloodRunsRed&Black
Dalton, GA
Member since Oct 2004
520 posts
Posted on 2/5/16 at 8:32 am to
A lot of people are referencing that interview on other sites, but at this point, it all hinges omy SAT score.

After that, it's a mix of the degree he wants, where the people around him want him to go, etc.

Lots of pieces, and it makes him a hard one to call.
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