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When is the last time Bama played a HUNH in the heat?

Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:24 am
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:24 am
From what I can remember, they haven't in a while, or at least not a team the caliber of ours.
Generally, I think people make way too big of a deal about the heat, and it does get way hot in Ttown, but defending the HUNH in September in Texas is brutal if you are not conditioned.

I am sure they are in shape, but this is one of the few times that I think the heat will play a factor.
If we consistently convert 3rd downs on offense in the first half, the second half might look like a prize fighter who took too many body shots early.

Of course, this requires our defense to get off the field and not let them dominate TOP.
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:26 am to
Getting 3 and outs on defense and getting first downs on offense is what we're going to have to do. Last year we did exactly that and jumped out to a 20-0 (thanks Bertolet ) lead before they started clawing back.

I think we absoulutely will use the heat to our advantage. We were able to wear them out early in November last year - mid September is a different animal. Should be fun
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:43 am to
Yep. I keep thinking back to that Okie State game in 2011. They just completely gassed our defense in September with their tempo.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 9:45 am to
One thing not talked about a lot is the speed with which Mike Matthews ran the offense last week. Joeckel slowed it down because he just doesn't have the experience making the reads but Matthews was pushing the tempo to the point that if Manziel had played I think it would have been as fast as it ever was last year.

On another note, was talking to a friend of mine that really understands OL technique, assignments, etc (not an Ag btw), and his comment from the Rice game was: "Mike Matthews is going to be 1st team All-SEC and likely 1st team All-American if he plays like that every week." I knew Sumlin praised him in his presser but I just assumed that was on a curve for a first start.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80789 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:21 am to
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Yep. I keep thinking back to that Okie State game in 2011. They just completely gassed our defense in September with their tempo.


The game was 20-3 in favor of A&M at the end of the first half.

The defense was gassed by Mike Sherman's shitty playcalling (5 run plays in the 2nd half after averaging almost 8 yards/carry? Really?)
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19246 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:28 am to
it's also a double edged sword. We need to be productive and not suffer those 3 and outs.

I am starting to have a good feeling about this game, perhapst the Kool Aid is going down a little too smoothly.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

The game was 20-3 in favor of A&M at the end of the first half.

The defense was gassed by Mike Sherman's shitty playcalling (5 run plays in the 2nd half after averaging almost 8 yards/carry? Really?)



Thanks for making me relive that horror over again
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80789 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:22 pm to
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Thanks for making me relive that horror over again


You haven't experienced TRUE horror in person (Aggie Football style) unless you were a student when Fran was the coach.

Fortunately, I wasn't, but I got to experience:

Losing to USL when UL-Lafayette was still 1-AA

Going 3 straight games without scoring an offensive touchdown

Getting shut out twice in the same season (37-0 to Nebraska, 24-0 to Sandusky)

Having Oklahoma rip us apart 51-6
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145299 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:22 pm to
I am convinced we don't collapse on ourselves in 2011 if we don't herp derp that game
Posted by trickydick12
college station
Member since Sep 2012
1672 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:23 pm to
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

If it's not hot enough outside I bet Saban has the heat turned on in the indoor facility.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58156 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Losing to USL when UL-Lafayette was still 1-AA


They weren't 1-AA. They have been 1-A/FBS since Division 1 was split in 1978.

A&M is 18-0 vs 1-AA/FCS schools.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:46 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80789 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:46 pm to
They were really 1-A back then? Wow. Here I thought we had lost to a 1-AA school. The loss still hurts, but not as bad as KSU losing to ND State.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145299 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:47 pm to
I've only been an Aggie fan since around the winning streak in 2010. Ive had it really good
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Okie State game in 2011

I've permanently removed that season from my memory. That season never fricking happened
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Losing to USL when UL-Lafayette was still 1-AA

USL was not 1-AA in 96. Actually, they've never been FCS (1-AA) at any point. And we've never lost to an FCS foe

eta: see DR RC beat me to it. That's what I get for starting to reply and only getting back to it 15 minutes later
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:53 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58156 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:57 pm to
You might be surprised what all conferences were originally 1-A when the division was split

ACC
Big 8
Big Ten
Ivy
MAC
Missouri Valley
Pac-10
PCAA
SEC
Southern
Southland
Southwest
WAC

here is a list of FBS/1-A conference winners since the division was formed.

LINK

the next link gives every FBS schools record vs FCS and has some links to the history of the divisions and how they were formed.

LINK
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

The game was 20-3 in favor of A&M at the end of the first half.

The defense was gassed by Mike Sherman's shitty playcalling (5 run plays in the 2nd half after averaging almost 8 yards/carry? Really?)




You dont think OSUs tempo had anything to do with that loss? Our guys were literally helpless at the end of the second half.
No doubt Sherman's playcalling facilitated that epic collapse by giving them the ball back, but our defense could not stop them regardless.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80789 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

but our defense could not stop them regardless.


Our defense stopped them repeatedly in the first half despite their tempo.

You don't go up 20-3 if you're not stopping anyone.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:29 pm to
In the second half, we did not stop them.

quote:

15:00 3 02:36 OKST 20 11 80 Rushing Touchdown
10:05 3 02:32 OKST 12 10 89 Passing Touchdown
06:57 3 03:24 OKST 44 9 56 Passing Touchdown
03:12 3 01:21 OKST 23 4 22 Fumble
00:58 3 01:52 OKST 34 6 27 Field Goal Good
11:33 4 05:09 OKST 20 12 79 Field Goal Good
02:20 4 00:33 OKST 22 3 2 Punt
01:31 4 01:31 OKST 45 4 -55 End of Half


Remember, this is the game where all the "conditioning" talk came from for the rest of the 2011 season.
It would be one thing if we gave the ball to a traditional power running team, and its another when you give it back to an offense like Oklahoma State. It broke our defense and we were helpless.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

You haven't experienced TRUE horror in person (Aggie Football style) unless you were a student when Fran was the coach.


I was a student for the last 2 years of Fran, and the first 3 years of Sherman. I've...........seen things

I was also lucky enough to be in kyle field north for 04 and 08

'10 was sweet, tho
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