re: The time has come for both positive and negative Ags to reevaluate this program

What happened to the days when WE would dictate things on offense? When we showed up in other fools' cribs and punched them right in the mouth on the first drive and didn't let up?

Oh yeah....certain people aren't here anymore. Too bad, so sad.

We know what works on offense. SUMLIN knows what works. It ain't whatever the frick you call this bullshite we run on that side of the ball right now, that's for damn sure.

Fix it.

Yeah I hadn't been reading that thread, but glad they were edited. Don't need to get anyone in trouble or anything.

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As for Sumlin, he recruited John fricking Chavis. Possibly the greatest coaching coupe in history. The most important position outside of head coach, and Sumlin got the very best in the country at it. We'd be insane to entertain notions of firing Sumlin.

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This is true, and is also why he either needs to take the reins of the offense himself or pull another coup and find a competent, non-bubble screen throwing OC. Possibly both of those steps need to be taken in the coming weeks/offseason.

And, yes, we will probably finish with a respectable record, but much like last year, the total tally of wins/losses don't really tell the entire story. We cratered last season and Sumlin made the right move to save that iteration of the team. But after all the talk of "this year is different" and putting on the front that they'd learned/grown from last year's debacle, the EXACT same thing has happened. No, OM didn't beat us 59-0, but they should have had they not stepped on their own dicks so many times and thanks to us actually having a good defense this year. But the tenor was the same, from a QB looking absolutely broken to possible strife in the locker room, and it's more alarming this go-round because it's so uncannily similar to last year.

Maybe he'll pull a rabbit out of the hat again, but regardless, whatever's going on ain't good, and while I'll stop WELL short of calling for Sumlin's job, he and his entire staff should be under the microscope from here on out.

It all starts with KDS, though.

Sumlin and Spav fricked up this game royally

Should have benched Allen the entire second half and run with Murray or Hubenak ( since apparently Murray is in the doghouse)

That was amateur hour out there tonight

It would seem by any estimation that KDS was taking a huge risk by hiring an unproven (and very young) OC. The risk, of course, is that you're going with someone who has to learn on the job. Far far from an expert here, but Spav just looks to be in over his head right now. No way we're ever gonna win big in the SEC West without maximum production from both coordinators. I can't see how KDS can avoid making a change. The only question is how long he waits.

I don't like this style of offense at all. I think there's been some arrogance involved, thinking that this offense can run itself once installed. In spite of all the Kliff love, weren't alot of people happy with the McKinney choice at the time, arguing that he would help us run the ball more effectively? That's what I recall.