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The officiating crew for the ASU game will be Big XII

Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:06 pm
WTF!?!?

I can't express my loathing for Hyman in words. Goodness gracious! Why even have an AD?
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4194 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:08 pm to
LOL. Frick.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20476 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:17 pm to
He is the worst. No doubt about that.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145084 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:19 pm to
Lol
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58039 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:24 pm to
not sure what some of you expected.

it's a neutral site game so we were never going to get SEC refs.

the refs that live nearby who would be next in the pecking order are Big 12 refs.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:25 pm to
Say what you will about Wally - the man was NOT an visionary athletic director and definitely left us way behind in terms of facilities which had a lot to do with Brown & Stoops getting the jump on us - but he was an Aggie who cared about A&M and wouldn't have stood for the shenanigans that Hyman has allowed to go down.

Can you imagine Bill Byrne letting this happen? Not in a million years. That guy had his faults, but he was a fighter.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:26 pm to
frick.

Was hoping we'd get B1G refs or something.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:26 pm to
Yeah I don't know how these things are typically negotiated but I assume SEC and PAC officials are off limits, and the only ones that would make sense would be Big 12 or I guess maybe C USA or AAC (if those last two are even options).

I'm also one of those people that rarely believes in officials losing games for teams or conspiracy theories though so my opinion probably won't be popular
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:27 pm to
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it's a neutral site game so we were never going to get SEC refs.


DUH.

But you don't think it's incumbent on our AD to insist that the refs don't come from a conference that we publicly spurned, whose refs - had it not been able to hold itself together for a few more years - could have been out of the job because of us? B12 refs cannot be expected to be impartial when we almost torpedoed their conference a few years ago.

There are other - neutral - conferences with refs we could have contracted to work this game - the ACC or B1G.

Hyman is just collecting a check from us. Nothing more. Some of y'all need to wake up.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 2:34 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:41 pm to
good lord some of y'all bitch about the stupidest shite

We use Big 12 officials in our scrimmages fyi. If he had a choice, I think this is the league of officials Sumlin would probably request. I doubt we had any say in the matter though as I think the Texas Bowl people that put this on hire the officials from a neutral conference.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:44 pm to
The Big 12 had better football officiating than the SEC. Yes, I said it. The level of officiating in the SEC is really not befitting of how top notch everything else is in the conference IMO
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
58039 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

But you don't think it's incumbent on our AD to insist that the refs don't come from a conference that we publicly spurned, whose refs - had it not been able to hold itself together for a few more years - could have been out of the job because of us? B12 refs cannot be expected to be impartial when we almost torpedoed their conference a few years ago.


Not when we are playing against a team from a conference that just tried to lure nearly all the worthwhile Big 12 schools into a Pac 16 which absolutely would have led to several Big 12 refs getting fired due to so many games no longer being played in Texas and the Midwest.


quote:

There are other - neutral - conferences with refs we could have contracted to work this game - the ACC or B1G.

Hyman is just collecting a check from us. Nothing more. Some of y'all need to wake up.



You don't know this at all. You don't know anything about their availability or who even is paying them. It's very likely that the games organizers made the decision on how much would be spent on refs.

As for your second claim, that is nothing more than silly internet fodder that some of you have repeated to each other enough that you have deluded yourselves into believing it.


Complaining about this and acting like Hyman has somehow failed to protect A&M is about as dumb as people who are bitching about Obama siding with Alaskan's wishes to change the name of Mt McKinley back to Denali.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 2:48 pm
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:19 pm to
I'm not an officiating conspiracy theorist. There were certainly times when we were in that conference that we were screwed over by an official who was a fan of tu, but I never bought into the idea that all officials had that same bias.

I think we should consider something else though. There are a lot of officials who see the SEC as the big show and want to get in. There is incentive to call a good game.
Posted by knight_ryder
XTC cabaret
Member since Jan 2015
3356 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:29 pm to
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The Big 12 had better football officiating than the SEC. Yes, I said it.


I agree. Slive was a slick one.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20476 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:39 pm to
I don't really care where the officials come from, I just want Garrett to get holding calls this year.


Hyman is a terrible AD for a multitude of other reasons.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 3:42 pm to
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but I never bought into the idea that all officials had that same bias.


Enough of them were. Both Bible and Randy Crystal's crews were helmed by UT fans and it showed. We lost the 2011 UT game on a call made by a UT fan who had a TexAgs account he used for talking shite to us.
This post was edited on 9/2/15 at 3:43 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Complaining about this and acting like Hyman has somehow failed to protect A&M is about as dumb as people who are bitching about Obama siding with Alaskan's wishes to change the name of Mt McKinley back to Denali.


What a shitty analogy.

Hyman sat on the selection committee for the NCAA baseball tournament. In that capacity, he refused - and has publicly admitted so - to advocate for A&M, his current employer, to host the Super Regional and allowed it to go to TCU - his former employer and daughter's alma mater - instead, despite A&M having the better resume. He then showed up to the game in a TCU purple shirt and took photos with TCU boosters.

frick Eric Hyman.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:02 pm to
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The officiating crew for the ASU game will be Big XII


In a surprise result, Texas wins the game late on a questionable call.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58039 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

Hyman sat on the selection committee for the NCAA baseball tournament. In that capacity, he refused - and has publicly admitted so - to advocate for A&M, his current employer, to host the Super Regional and allowed it to go to TCU - his former employer and daughter's alma mater - instead, despite A&M having the better resume. He then showed up to the game in a TCU purple shirt and took photos with TCU boosters.


perish the thought of an AD w/an obvious conflict of interest recusing himself.

if the shoe was on the other foot an an AD lobbying against A&M for their school while sitting the committee you'd be pitching up a shite storm about that being unfair too.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60119 posts
Posted on 9/2/15 at 5:36 pm to
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if the shoe was on the other foot an an AD lobbying against A&M for their school while sitting the committee you'd be pitching up a shite storm about that being unfair too.


Indeed. I understand people being pissed about Kennedy but every other reason that Hyman is supposedly terrible I don't get.
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