re: Our problem is that we have no identity as a team

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the hardon our fans have for Murray is perplexing. A couple of points

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Sumlin keeps running him out there, not us. Sounds like you think Sumlin doesn't respect Kyle Allen? They put him out there for his running abilities.

In my opinion it would make a little more sense to me to put him out there (as long as we are doing it anyway) with Kyle Allen a few times a game as a back and have him go immediately into space from the backfield instead of risking the rush of lineman, linebackers, blitz packages, etc... from the QB position.

Kyle Allen doesn't have to throw to him but if he does, it is very likely that Kyler is one on one with an LB. I would take that match up all day long. The premise being that Sumlin and Spavital are already putting him into the game anyway.

Kyle Allen is an excellent QB and reads defenses exceptionally well. Once again, as long as Texas A&M is putting Kyler out there anyway... He did account for 1/3 of our rushing yards in only a handful of called runs. Crowd is going to get excited when Kyler comes in because he is exciting on his feet. Not so much through the air. Exciting player is an exciting player and don't think the crowd is being disrespectful at all to Kyle Allen. He has eyes and can see exactly what Kyler can do in space just as well as the rest of us.

Kyler came in during the 3rd and Ags reeled off 3 first downs in a row... on the ground. Holding call stopped the drive.

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This is where I disagree. I think a lot of them ARE doing it out of disrespect for Allen. I know several people IRL who agree and got the same impression. I've been there in person when it's being done live, and the impression I got was the crowd was pretty much saying "Get than bum Allen out of there."

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I know people who were essentially saying just that during the Nevada game.

You can deny it, but there is a large portion of our fan base who at the very least take Kyle for granted.

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The playcalling vs Arky was outstanding. Kyle made one mistake all game and it was on the goalline when he made the wrong decision on the zone read (Carson would have walked in).

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FTR Spav just said in his press conference that Kyle was trying to hand it off but had a bad hold on the ball and didn't want to risk the fumble.

So there we go, spav called a lights out game plan, our players executed at a pretty high level.

Touchdowns are nice but a field goal compared to a potential fumble is a trade off you take 10/10. Think of how many times we've benefited from teams being sloppy on option handoffs in the redzone? Auburn last year comes to mind immediately.

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I think that it's a number of things. He's not a very exciting player, he's not from Texas, and he's not a high school legend. I think all those points are ludicrous *especially the part about him not being from Texas* but those are some of the complaints I have gotten from my friends.

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As crazy as it sounds, that's all been my experience as well. Our fanbase has a great many morons in it.

After rewatching the game, it's clear to me that Kyle Allen played a very solid game. If not for keeping g the ball on the zone read, we would have had another TD in the first half.

The problem was we didn't have much time of possession bc the Arky run game. Hard to develop rhythm without calling plays.

Spav wasn't great at playcalling early, but made some terrific calls in the 4th quarter when we needed them. Totally out coached Arky with formations, resulting in the deep ball to Reynolds.

Also, I'm really glad we pounded Tra Carson for the late TD. Plus the 2 pt call was nails.

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You can deny it, but there is a large portion of our fan base who at the very least take Kyle for granted.

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Holy shite. We went from talking about something fun such as having Kyler line up as a RB to get a LB to cover him to..

a lot of fans disrespecting Kyle Allen

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denying a large portion of our fan base at the very least take Kyler for granted.

Quite a jump.

I don't know of anyone that thinks Allen shouldn't be the starter

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I don't know of anyone that thinks Allen shouldn't be the starter

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I don't either. Not one person. We are season ticket holders and also go to just about every single road game. Hang out with different folks at tailgates. Was at the Marriott bar this weekend before and after the game and not once did I hear anyone say Kyler should be starting over Kyle. Any bitching I heard was directed at our inability to run the ball. That was it.

Do fans that see glimpses of Kyler on TV or highlights with him running think he should be starting?? Sure, no doubt about it. They don't know better. Like I said earlier if you know anything at all about the Aggies offense and the reads that are required before the ball is snapped and after, there is no doubt whatsoever that Kyle Allen is the guy.

Feel like I stumbled into a shaggy thread for an hour or two.