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re: Men's Soccer, Women's Gymnastics, and Beach Volleyball
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:27 pm to tmc94
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:27 pm to tmc94
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Straight line ratings are therefore a bit deceiving and the soccer market is very difficult to gauge. Are the same people that watch MLS watching EPL? Or Liga MX? There's definitely some crossover but I don't think anyone knows exactly how much.
I can say that at least for myself I really only watch MLS and Liga MX. This is mainly b/c its simply much easier to watch since both are in North America. Hell, I've probably even watched more full NASL matches than EPL in the last few years.
I'm just not going to wake up in the morning to watch EPL even if the product is better overall. I have absolutely no attachment to any of those teams and have an extremely low chance of seeing them play in person with their full sides so its hard for me to get that all excited.
Maybe if FCD would play more friendlies against Euro teams I'd feel differently but since it's almost always a team from the western hemisphere there just isn't much opportunity for my interest to raise.
I'm obviously not the norm as most sports fans want to watch the best talent possible but I'm sure there are many more people like me that just can't get into Euro leagues due to their location and the issues it causes for potential fans on the other side of the world.
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:42 pm to Dr RC
FC Dallas has a pretty fun game watching environment. It just sucks that the stadium is in Frisco. No DART. So far away from Dallas.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 3:44 pm to AggieDub14
Yeah, no idea why they did the facility's out there. Houstons location is much better.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:09 pm to AggieDub14
Yea, going up to Frisco sucks. You are pretty much required to use the toll road to get there if you dont want to be in a car for over an hour.
At least its easy to get free parking up there. They are starting to charge for some lots but the stadium is really close to the Frisco library so you can almost always find a spot in their parking garage.
At least its easy to get free parking up there. They are starting to charge for some lots but the stadium is really close to the Frisco library so you can almost always find a spot in their parking garage.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:39 pm to Dr RC
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I'm obviously not the norm as most sports fans want to watch the best talent possible but I'm sure there are many more people like me that just can't get into Euro leagues due to their location and the issues it causes for potential fans on the other side of the world.
I think you are more than norm than you realize. MLS ratings are only marginally worse than EPL. Better time slots have a lot to do with why I'm sure but it is what it is. European games are never going to get better time slots and it's always going to significantly diminish individual game ratings.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:58 pm to Farmer1906
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Maybe it beats regular season NHL games, but regardless it doesn't make a dent compared to other sports.
I'm guessing you don't know much about soccer and that's cool but this graph is horribly deceptive.
It's like using a Cowboys-Redskins regular season game as the basis for football popularity.
Chelsea plays United twice every year. In fact, they play on Sunday this week. At the exact same time there are 3 other major games going (La Liga, Liga MX, and Bundesliga) aired in the US.
I'm sure Chelsea-United will win the time slot as they are bigger brands, but it's not a very important game as neither are in the title race at all. It's rather meaningless to compare to a playoff game of any sort.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 5:09 pm to tmc94
I play for the Men's Club Team. We practice at the Penberthy Complex. Without recruiting or funding from the university we compete at a high level. The current club has two former D1 players, and a handful of lower division players.
The Issue with Ellis is that it was not built to sustain play from men and women. It is the best field I have ever played on, but it is too soft to take a beating from a mens and women team.
The Soccer camps mentioned earlier are primarily attended by girls, but there is a market for boys. And if an NCAA team was created, that market would increase a ton. If you want to look at boys interest in college soccer, you should look at the amount of boys SMU soccer camps draw in.
The Issue with Ellis is that it was not built to sustain play from men and women. It is the best field I have ever played on, but it is too soft to take a beating from a mens and women team.
The Soccer camps mentioned earlier are primarily attended by girls, but there is a market for boys. And if an NCAA team was created, that market would increase a ton. If you want to look at boys interest in college soccer, you should look at the amount of boys SMU soccer camps draw in.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 5:59 pm to Dr RC
Just would like to add that Liga MX will lose value in the coming decades here in the U.S.. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics tend to be more 'Americanized' than their parents, which still watch Telenovelas and Mexican sporting events from back home. Mexican American off-springs don't watch Spanish media like a lot of people like to believe. They are more likely to watch American Football or shows such as Breaking Bad rather than Tres Mujeres, Un Camino or the Aguilas del America.
Even though the Hispanic segment continues to grow, the Spanish speaking segment of Latinos aren't growing as fast. Take San Antonio for example. A ton of Tejanos that don't know a lick of Spanish (outside of Selena songs
). You can find some Hispanics down there that look like they just jumped the border, but are actually 4th generation Mexican American.
Damn Tejanos and San Antonians are a breed of their own.
Even though the Hispanic segment continues to grow, the Spanish speaking segment of Latinos aren't growing as fast. Take San Antonio for example. A ton of Tejanos that don't know a lick of Spanish (outside of Selena songs
). You can find some Hispanics down there that look like they just jumped the border, but are actually 4th generation Mexican American. Damn Tejanos and San Antonians are a breed of their own.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 7:20 pm to Farmer1906
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10 years from now, that will no longer be the case.
I was told that 10 years ago.
Beat me to it, but I'll raise you 10 years: I was told that 10 years before 10 years ago.
As long as football isn't banned, soccer will be something Americans care about in numbers large enough to make it work only during the World Cup and Summer Olympics.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:39 am to finestfirst79
Meh, that's a fairly antiquated view. This is actual data from last week
Pacers/Warriors, 2.0m viewers (ESPN)
Heat/Raptors 1.3m (ESPN)
Man City v West Ham, 1.25m (NBC)
Bulls/Lakers 1.1m (TNT)
Knicks/Raptors 1.0m (TNT)
Certainly the NBA gets a lot more airtime right now (NBC only airs one game per week) but the games broadcast on NBC average about 1m per match, which is fairly equivalent to regular season NBA on TNT (but below ESPN).
Pacers/Warriors, 2.0m viewers (ESPN)
Heat/Raptors 1.3m (ESPN)
Man City v West Ham, 1.25m (NBC)
Bulls/Lakers 1.1m (TNT)
Knicks/Raptors 1.0m (TNT)
Certainly the NBA gets a lot more airtime right now (NBC only airs one game per week) but the games broadcast on NBC average about 1m per match, which is fairly equivalent to regular season NBA on TNT (but below ESPN).
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 9:40 am
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:41 am to tmc94
Back to the question at hand, soccer viewers skew quite a bit younger.
"In 2012, the poll determined soccer was America's second-most popular sport for those aged 12-24, ahead of NBA, MLB and college football." (ESPN research)
"A Pew Research Center study in January [2014] found that 40 percent of young American adults aged 20-29 were looking forward to the World Cup, compared to only 13 percent among those 50 and older."
That's a significant generational gap.
The question right now is how to consolidate viewership among the various leagues and whether college soccer can capture that market. College aged kids are already watching in very large numbers. And the SEC has a built in fanbase and platform to broadcast with zero competition.
So there's a big opportunity there imo
"In 2012, the poll determined soccer was America's second-most popular sport for those aged 12-24, ahead of NBA, MLB and college football." (ESPN research)
"A Pew Research Center study in January [2014] found that 40 percent of young American adults aged 20-29 were looking forward to the World Cup, compared to only 13 percent among those 50 and older."
That's a significant generational gap.
The question right now is how to consolidate viewership among the various leagues and whether college soccer can capture that market. College aged kids are already watching in very large numbers. And the SEC has a built in fanbase and platform to broadcast with zero competition.
So there's a big opportunity there imo
Posted on 2/6/16 at 11:44 am to tmc94
If interest in college-aged kids is in question, stop by the Corner on a Champions league match day and take a look at the representation of soccer fans in college station in the middle of classes.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:58 pm to JoeSmooth
3 pages and still no pics?
Posted on 2/8/16 at 4:08 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 2/8/16 at 4:11 pm to Cheese Grits
Look, we here on tArk strive every day to keep the Aggie ladies under wraps and away from prying eyes.
Because we're selfish bastard covered bastards with bastard filling, don't you see.
Please respect our work and don't undo it, Cheese Grits
Because we're selfish bastard covered bastards with bastard filling, don't you see.
Please respect our work and don't undo it, Cheese Grits
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