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Kyle Rebuild...word trickling out today on this
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:55 pm
- construction staged over 3 years but still playing at Kyle
- will seat 103.5k
- Sumlin said his main recommendation on a new Kyle Field is 'to make impossible possible and make Kyle Field louder
- Price tag of $425m (seems crazy high)
- want local community to kick in $38m for keeping the games
- will seat 103.5k
- Sumlin said his main recommendation on a new Kyle Field is 'to make impossible possible and make Kyle Field louder
- Price tag of $425m (seems crazy high)
- want local community to kick in $38m for keeping the games
This post was edited on 9/26/12 at 12:22 pm
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 1:56 pm to tmc94
103? thats it?
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:06 pm to LegacyAggie
yeah, here are the tweets about it
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The tentative football stadium renovation would seat up to 103,500 people and construction would be spread over three years, officials said.
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TAMU System Chancellor John Sharp met with Bryan, College Station and Brazos County officials Monday to discuss $38 million in assistance.
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Multiple sources confirm TAMU system wants to renovate Kyle Field for up to $450 million.
29m The Eagle The Eagle ?@theeagle
The tentative football stadium renovation would seat up to 103,500 people and construction would be spread over three years, officials said.
29m The Eagle The Eagle ?@theeagle
TAMU System Chancellor John Sharp met with Bryan, College Station and Brazos County officials Monday to discuss $38 million in assistance.
29m The Eagle The Eagle ?@theeagle
Multiple sources confirm TAMU system wants to renovate Kyle Field for up to $450 million.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:19 pm to tmc94
BCS folks better get the checkbooks out.
The seating above 95k is really not important, what is important is quality of seating. If the last 10k seats are crappy ones like Section 100 where you can't see the field or the Jumbotron well then that is asking for trouble. If they have very minimal bad seats though they will continue to sell it out. If it is 103k it is likely to say a big "frick you" to the sips just like they did when they built the Zone by making it just a little larger than theirs and thus the largest seating capacity in Texas (Cowboys stadium is technically 110k with standing room but only 80k seating). I hadn't heard that number though.
$425 Million is serious cash though, esp when you consider the Zone is basically untouched.
The seating above 95k is really not important, what is important is quality of seating. If the last 10k seats are crappy ones like Section 100 where you can't see the field or the Jumbotron well then that is asking for trouble. If they have very minimal bad seats though they will continue to sell it out. If it is 103k it is likely to say a big "frick you" to the sips just like they did when they built the Zone by making it just a little larger than theirs and thus the largest seating capacity in Texas (Cowboys stadium is technically 110k with standing room but only 80k seating). I hadn't heard that number though.
$425 Million is serious cash though, esp when you consider the Zone is basically untouched.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:28 pm to aggressor
Probably costs that because of the phased construction.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:22 pm to tmc94
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- construction staged over 3 years but still playing at Kyle
Seems like I was right, and Cooter Davenport was in fact talking completely out of his arse.
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:36 pm to TeLeFaWx
A&M was never going to leave College Station as long as it was an option to stay. Looking forward to the renovation though can't wait to see some models/conception drawings.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:37 pm to TeLeFaWx
My understanding is the 3 year vs 1 year at Reliant issue isn't resolved just yet. If the BCS folks don't put up the cash Reliant is a very real option. Lots of big money politics going on.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:42 pm to aggressor
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My understanding is the 3 year vs 1 year at Reliant issue isn't resolved just yet. If the BCS folks don't put up the cash Reliant is a very real option. Lots of big money politics going on.
I have always heard Reliant is a real option, but from no one have I ever heard the cost related to it, and it always has seemed like a threat to the business owners to help pony up. Playing at Reliant isn't a money maker. They are going to charge us to play, park, there. I don't see how people miss that, or just assume brand new BMAs in the Houston area are just craving A&M to play at Reliant because currently Kyle is too far for them. Doesn't make sense.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:44 pm to NonregAg09
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A&M was never going to leave College Station as long as it was an option to stay.
This. Don't see how people just assumed anything other than this without completely making up bold and ridiculous assumptions.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:56 pm to tmc94
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- Sumlin said his main recommendation on a new Kyle Field is 'to make impossible possible and make Kyle Field louder
Close it in, make the East side banked more, give the 12th man an awning, and get the stands closer to field of play.
Don't see how any of those are impossible, Kevin!
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
I think one realistic option is to lower the field and extend the stands into the track. I know that's problematic for march in but I'm sure it can be sorted.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:08 pm to tmc94
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one realistic option is to lower the field and extend the stands into the track
They looked at doing this back in the 90's when they were planning the zone as well, problem is that the decks are not at a sloped enough angle for all the seats to have a full view of the field.
Also learned during the same study that connecting the E&W 2nd and 3rd decks in a "horseshoe" is problematic because the they are not at the same heights.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:39 pm to texmariner84
they are going to completely tear down both sides I'm pretty sure and is why it's back on the table.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:49 pm to TeLeFaWx
The money maker in going to Reliant is more about the long term, though there are a lot more premium seats in Reliant and you would almost certainly not sell 31k student passes that are subsidized if you played there. The key is you are done in one year and that is a less expensive and painful build. Then you are charging full gate for all the new premium seating in the New Kyle for 2 years more.
I still think the 3 year project is how they go and agree it is about trying to get BCS to kick in cash, that said they aren't afraid to go another direction.
If you look at the one photo we have seen they also don't connect the decks but build a mezzanine that connects them so you can walk from deck to deck and they likely add a ton of premium lounges and vendors in that space along with other features like probably escalators on the West Deck I would assume. It does no good to cover the East Deck because of the angle of the sun, it won't do anything. I would also expect the students aren't going to get a lot of new amenities other than new bathrooms and concessions. It's all about attracting the whales to drop the big bucks.
I still think the 3 year project is how they go and agree it is about trying to get BCS to kick in cash, that said they aren't afraid to go another direction.
If you look at the one photo we have seen they also don't connect the decks but build a mezzanine that connects them so you can walk from deck to deck and they likely add a ton of premium lounges and vendors in that space along with other features like probably escalators on the West Deck I would assume. It does no good to cover the East Deck because of the angle of the sun, it won't do anything. I would also expect the students aren't going to get a lot of new amenities other than new bathrooms and concessions. It's all about attracting the whales to drop the big bucks.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 4:49 pm to tmc94
agree thought you were implying leaving the decks in place...
Renovating this thing in phases is going to be one hell of a headache. Sad thing is that in three years the seats I have sat in my whole life will be gone and we probably wont be able to get as good of seats for the same price.
Renovating this thing in phases is going to be one hell of a headache. Sad thing is that in three years the seats I have sat in my whole life will be gone and we probably wont be able to get as good of seats for the same price.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 6:25 pm to aggressor
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The money maker in going to Reliant is more about the long term, though there are a lot more premium seats in Reliant and you would almost certainly not sell 31k student passes that are subsidized if you played there. The key is you are done in one year and that is a less expensive and painful build. Then you are charging full gate for all the new premium seating in the New Kyle for 2 years more.
But you can't charge people PSLs at Reliant(this is how Jerry World works, I'm assuming it is the same?), they are already sold. In one off season you build the premium money maker seats at the west stands or the south endzone, then the other the other off season. You would actually be gaining a season of partial premium seating, because you wouldn't play a season away.
Guys. Plenty of other stadiums have been rebuilt. It would be incredibly Aggie of us to overthink it and assume we can't do it in phases.
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 9/25/12 at 6:38 pm to TeLeFaWx
1 year. Get it done and over with.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 6:43 pm to LegacyAggie
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1 year. Get it done and over with.
Why are you certain that is best? Just because it seems easier to tackle? The easy way isn't always the best way.
Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:01 pm to TeLeFaWx
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It would be incredibly Aggie of us to overthink it and assume we can't do it in phases.
I really can't stand this type of comment from Aggies, very self loathing. I enjoy your opinions but this stuff really bugs me.
We can do it in phases or all at once. We have some very smart people looking at all the options and I have confidence in their decision.
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