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re: Kyle Allen Transferring

Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:59 pm to
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/10/15 at 7:59 pm to
His reason wasn't competition. It was disagreement with the staff.

Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:00 pm to
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Same. I won't buy a single ticket. I will probably still have the one big tailgate I usually have, but I won't be going to that game.


I went to as many games as I could this year since it was my first time being back in close proximity since I graduated.

Not gonna bust my arse to get to Kyle this next year, though, I don't think.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55424 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:01 pm to
Yes, but staff is changing, Spav won't be calling the plays and now there is no competition, he would be a fool to leave and no way his dad let's him
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:09 pm to
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The Auburn game was what did it for me.


Ole Miss for me. 22 straight incompletions from a kid who had a separated shoulder. Yet, Sumlin left him out there and humiliated him on national TV because he didn't want to answer questions about Kyler Murray. Then, Sumlin spent the rest of the season denying the injury and setting up fake QB competitions to cover it up.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 8:10 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:13 pm to
I don't know who is worse at this point, strong or Sumlin
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:13 pm to
He was a true frosh though? No upside at all? You had to have known this was maybe possible when you signed Murray. Two 5*s back to back?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:16 pm to
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Ole Miss for me. 22 straight incompletions from a kid who had a separated shoulder. Yet, Sumlin left him out there and humiliated him on national TV because he didn't want to answer questions about Kyler Murray. Then, Sumlin spent the rest of the season denying the injury and setting up fake QB competitions to cover it up.


Sure seems that way.

The ole miss thing was the most bizarre game I've ever seen. We're talking about a QB who'd been looking like an all-American up to a uncharacteristic Bama game not even able to compete a simple swing pass behind the line of scrimmage. And he was left in there to flounder like a punch-drink injured boxer whose manager refuses to throw in the towel. Shameful.

I wouldn't want to play for a coach who did that to me either and wouldn't even give me the dignity of acknowledging my injury. Props to Kyle Allen for being a class act through this whole season and his entire time at A&M. He deserved better than this and was let down.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55424 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:17 pm to
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Ole Miss for me. 22 straight incompletions from a kid who had a separated shoulder. Yet, Sumlin left him out there and humiliated him on national TV because he didn't want to answer questions about Kyler Murray. Then, Sumlin spent the rest of the season denying the injury and setting up fake QB competitions to cover it up.


Yeah, 1. Hubenack should have been in 2. Sumlin should have been open about Allen's injury
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7198 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:20 pm to
I keep going back to the press conference where Sumlin said that KA's problems were linked to a failure to handle the pressure of the moment. He said this when everybody knew that KA had been playing hurt. It was just strange, and I still don't know what to make of it.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:20 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss for me. 22 straight incompletions from a kid who had a separated shoulder. Yet, Sumlin left him out there and humiliated him on national TV because he didn't want to answer questions about Kyler Murray. Then, Sumlin spent the rest of the season denying the injury and setting up fake QB competitions to cover it up.


He humiliated himself. That had to be one of the worse performances I have ever seen.

I think he tried to play through pain during the Bama and Ole Miss game. The coaches trusted him and were disappointed with the results. They reopened the competition and gave him the reigns for the LSU you game and he sucked again.

He sucked and now he is a quitter.

Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:20 pm to
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I wouldn't want to play for a coach who did that to me either and wouldn't even give me the dignity of acknowledging my injury. Props to Kyle Allen for being a class act through this whole season and his entire time at A&M. He deserved better than this and was let down.


Absolutely agree with this, Tbird. Sumlin lost me that night. Not only did he ship the Ole Miss game in by not putting in Hubenak until it was too late, he completely humiliated and hung a good kid and good Aggie out to dry. A coach, to me, has two primary responsibilities: 1) win football games, and 2) be a father figure to the men under your care. He did neither that night. That's when I realized I was done with him. He is not the man to lead A&M to the promised land.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 8:23 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80415 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:21 pm to
He's a liar and a lush.
Posted by Pitch To Johnny
Houston
Member since Jun 2015
4195 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:21 pm to
Kyler absolutely could end up being a great quarterback, but he made terrible decisions this year. I was hoping he would have time to become the starter on his own, not forced into the role.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60218 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:23 pm to
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He humiliated himself. That had to be one of the worse performances I have ever seen.

I think he tried to play through pain during the Bama and Ole Miss game. The coaches trusted him and were disappointed with the results. They reopened the competition and gave him the reigns for the LSU you game and he sucked again.

He sucked and now he is a quitter.



frick off
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:24 pm to
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He humiliated himself. That had to be one of the worse performances I have ever seen.

I think he tried to play through pain during the Bama and Ole Miss game. The coaches trusted him and were disappointed with the results.


Please tell me you're trolling right now.

Please.

quote:

He sucked and now he is a quitter.


Tell. Me. This. Is. A. Troll.

Goddammit.
This post was edited on 12/10/15 at 8:25 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55424 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:26 pm to
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He humiliated himself. That had to be one of the worse performances I have ever seen.

I think he tried to play through pain during the Bama and Ole Miss game. The coaches trusted him and were disappointed with the results.








There is absolutely ZERO evidence that this theory isn't true. It very well could be. This could be on Kyle, unfortunately we will never know.


But it IS plausible
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46543 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:27 pm to
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He humiliated himself. That had to be one of the worse performances I have ever seen.

I think he tried to play through pain during the Bama and Ole Miss game. The coaches trusted him and were disappointed with the results. They reopened the competition and gave him the reigns for the LSU you game and he sucked again.

He sucked and now he is a quitter.



You serious, Clark?
Posted by Asian Sensation
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2014
742 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:31 pm to
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There is absolutely ZERO evidence that this theory isn't true. It very well could be. This could be on Kyle, unfortunately we will never know.


Last I checked, a head coach made those kinds of decisions. Isn't that what we pay him $5M for? Regardless of what Kyle said or didn't say, anyone with eyes could see that he was hurt and shouldn't have been playing. The entire world knew that we were never going to win that game if Kyle Allen stayed in. Sumlin left him in because he didn't want to answer questions about why Murray wasn't playing.
Posted by Slotback
Member since Jun 2012
671 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:32 pm to
This is a disaster.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55424 posts
Posted on 12/10/15 at 8:33 pm to
But you are assuming a lot, you don't know that to be true. It may be, but it's also just speculation.

What if Kyle did lie or downplay his discomfort/injury?
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