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re: An education on Texas A&M's history and traditions please

Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:19 pm to
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We definitely still disliked Texas during that time period and enjoyed the wins we had over them, but the atmosphere around that game became more of a cocktail party


I'm not sure what groups you hung around, but that definitely wasn't the feeling.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:21 pm to
I know, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I'm just saying I feel like it's unique to a&m. Like I referenced, can you imagine someone saying 'let's go Michigan Spartans!' Or something?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:22 pm to
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During the 2000's the school the fanbase and student body most despised and most wanted to beat was Tech - by a lot. That made them our main rival during that period of time.


If I get so drunk that I fall and hit the floor, does that make the floor my rival?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145128 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:23 pm to
Wikipedia has got you covered

LINK

and before you ask, yes, there are still a good amount of people who live their life by these and take them seriously
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:30 pm to
I've made children do push-ups at Charles Cheese's because they used the word "butt"
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 1:44 pm to
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I know, and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I'm just saying I feel like it's unique to a&m. Like I referenced, can you imagine someone saying 'let's go Michigan Spartans!' Or something?


They're definitely the Michigan State Spartans as opposed to the San Jose State Spartans. It's a label that differentiates one state's Aggies from another state's Aggies. There used to be an Aggie team in every state. We just held onto it.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:29 pm to
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1) Gig'em. What the hell does this mean and where did it come from?


Used to play TCU every year. Gigging is frog hunting.

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2) Aggies. I read that this came as an old nickname that came from A&M's agricultural background and it just kind of stuck. Is that essentially the story


Correct. Some Oklahoma Sooners still condescendingly refer to some Oklahoma State fans as "Oklahoma Aggies". They used to be Oklahoma A&M, and at the time lots of schools were dropping the "A&M label" as they wanted to reveal that they provided more than just ag majors. Oklahoma A&M did it in 1957 I believe. Can't think of other schools that dropped the name, but there have been a few more I think.

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3) The use of Texas as opposed to A&M when referring to your school. (this one is a bit longer)


The only instance I can think of this, is saying "Fightin Texas Aggies" but it really has to do with the blending of the name of the school/mascot ambiguity. I mean back in the day, the label of schools changed all the time, Auburn wasn't officially called Auburn, but it was always called Auburn... and being an "Aggie" was synonymous with the state Ag school. So "Texas Aggie" meant you went to Texas A.M.C.

Iunno. I'm a first generation Ag, so I did think that was strange the first time it was said, but when you realize its always been said that way, and most likely for a good reason, it makes sense.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 2:55 pm to
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Can't think of other schools that dropped the name, but there have been a few more I think.
LSU, NMSU, KSU, Utah St, Cal-Davis off the top of my head. I'm unsure on schools like MSU, Auburn, and Clemson however.

The history of our school is somewhat complex bc we were one of 3 designated branches of the University of Texas (what is called that now was the 2nd created branch). The objective was to create one university with 3 distinct colleges. The AMC branch was the first college created and our charter actually wasn't changed til Rudder around 60.

What we today call UTx was the humanities college (located in the capital for good reason as it incl Hist, Poly Sci, Law, etc) but due to politics and money issues, the 3rd college was scrapped and it's charter rolled in there.

Then, again because of politics, the college in Austin was made into a University and began offering engineering. We fought for a good 10 years over what each school's goals and charters should be until they eventually split into two separate Systems. Because we only repped 1/3 of the original UT charter and they had 2/3, the land (which has led to what is called the PUF which is the primary endowment of both schools) was split giving them 2/3 and us 1/3.

Anyway, our history is not Texas A&M University. It's the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas. This is true of many state schools in that they were not chartered as Universities. The Texas Aggies is more a designation of which portion of the University we were from. It actually predates traditional mascots and we just never gave it up (most of the others that did, did so when they changed to a full-fledged University).
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:06 pm to
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and Clemson however.



Yes they were the state's version of an A&M school, not sure if they officially had that name at the beginning or not.

Actually used to have cadets as well.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60135 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:08 pm to
MSU was for sure Mississippi A&M for awhile. NC State was North Carolina College of Agricultural and Mechanical Arts but I don't see anything referring to it as "North Carolina A&M". A lot of them were also known as "X Agricultural College" before changing their name as well
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 3:09 pm
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:14 pm to
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Actually used to have cadets as well.


this is very traditional in the south. Almost all states had colleges with a goal of training the militia's officer corps. I'm a little surprised Clemson did just bc I know that's the mission of The Citadel but I suppose some of the older states had multiples (VMI, VaTech, GMI, and I think UGA too).
Posted by FarmersFight
Austin
Member since Jan 2013
1515 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:19 pm to
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this is very traditional in the south. Almost all states had colleges with a goal of training the militia's officer corps. I'm a little surprised Clemson did just bc I know that's the mission of The Citadel but I suppose some of the older states had multiples (VMI, VaTech, GMI, and I think UGA too).


I believe LSU has this in their history as well.
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 3:37 pm to
Isn't LSU's official name still Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College? I spent a summer there and kept seeing that name in all of their building plaques.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58052 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 4:21 pm to
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It's definitely true; you may just be too proud to admit it. During the 2000's the school the fanbase and student body most despised and most wanted to beat was Tech - by a lot. That made them our main rival during that period of time. We definitely still disliked Texas during that time period and enjoyed the wins we had over them, but the atmosphere around that game became more of a cocktail party. Tech was a feeling of pure hate.


Sorry but it ain't true and I don't know who the hell you hung out with but they sound like they had relatives at Tech. Never mind that the vast majority of the hate was coming from Tech's end.

Where I sit at Kyle you'd get laughed out the section for saying Tech became our main rival over the sips.


Posted by FarmersFight
Austin
Member since Jan 2013
1515 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:10 pm to
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Isn't LSU's official name still Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College? I spent a summer there and kept seeing that name in all of their building plaques.


I believe so - just as Southern is really Southern University and A&M College (Louisiana's version of Prairie View A&M).

Also, as a student in the early 2000s I can definitely say my circle of friends and acquaintances considered texas as A&M's main rival.

But as we say on tArk, frick LSU.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25851 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:13 pm to
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this is very traditional in the south. Almost all states had colleges with a goal of training the militia's officer corps. I'm a little surprised Clemson did just bc I know that's the mission of The Citadel but I suppose some of the older states had multiples (VMI, VaTech, GMI, and I think UGA too).





Yeah our students almost got in a shootout with their cadets after a game way back in the day.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:22 pm to
frick LSU
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

frick LSU




Agreed
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 3/26/14 at 5:46 pm to
Are you enrolling at A&M in the fall?
This post was edited on 3/26/14 at 5:46 pm
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