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re: 2015 Beisbol: game over
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:08 pm to Farmer1906
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:08 pm to Farmer1906
Now or not?
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:12 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
*Now.
BU beats TCU(RPI drops to 5) in the Big XII. TCU faces TTU in the losers bracket. While most consider TCU a lock. BA has them as the #7 national seed. They may be in some danger is they drop the game vs TTU too.
BU beats TCU(RPI drops to 5) in the Big XII. TCU faces TTU in the losers bracket. While most consider TCU a lock. BA has them as the #7 national seed. They may be in some danger is they drop the game vs TTU too.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:27 pm to Farmer1906
So how we get Vandy's ace?
Who will we pitch against him?
Who will we pitch against him?
Posted on 5/20/15 at 4:30 pm to Farmer1906
Vanderbilt comes back to win it in the 10th. Looks like their gamble to save Fulmer and pitch some scrub paid off. However they did use 4 arms including 3 of their better guys in Wright, Johnson, and Sheffield. However Fulmer might not need the ben. He's got 3 complete games and avergaes about 7 inning a start.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:16 am to Farmer1906
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While most consider TCU a lock. BA has them as the #7 national seed. They may be in some danger is they drop the game vs TTU too.
the problem I see is who do you see taking their seed from them?
Let's say it's a given that LSU, UCLA, Louisville, Illinois and Miami are seeds. There are then 3 spots up for grabs
Honestly, if we were being fair, I don't really see a problem with 4 SEC teams but it's not going to happen. So that means there is at least one non-SEC team in the final 3. And TCU has a better overall resume than both MVC teams. Unless FSU goes on a tear, I really don't see how you can leave TCU out.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 7:09 am to tmc94
So do the hogs play LSU now?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:01 am to Old Sarge
yep. That'll be an interesting game but totally irrelevant to us. UF vs Auburn otoh....War Damn Eagle
Posted on 5/21/15 at 8:10 am to tmc94
War darn eagle!
And
Woo pig sooei!
And
Woo pig sooei!
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:27 am to tmc94
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the problem I see is who do you see taking their seed from them?
The only argument I could make would be Missouri St, but its a long shot.
How the resumes will stack up assuming TCU loses to TTU & MSU goes 3-0 with a win over DBU/Bradley in the final.
Texas Christian
43-11 (18-7)
RPI would likely fall to 7 or 8
Top 25/50/100: 4/7/20
SOS: 72 (currently)
Road(includes neutral) Record: 16-9
Series Record (includes weekend tournaments): 11-2
Conference RPI: 6
Titles: Big 12 regular season
Missouri State
45-10 (22-3)
RPI would likely stay at 8, maybe hop TCU to 7
Top 25/50/100: 6/7/18
SOS: 89 (currently)
Road(includes neutral) Record: 29-7
Series Record (includes weekend tournaments): 10-3
Conference RPI: 5
Titles: Regular & Postseason Missouri Valley
I know TCU had those impressive wins early on vs ASU & the Dodger Classic, but when you look at the season as a whole, its not crazy to think MSU is as good/deserving on paper.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 9:52 am to Farmer1906
yeah, you probably have a point. TCU is down 5 runs to Tech right now btw. Two and q isn't exactly making a case for a seed.
TCU's resume really is paper thin. I just don't think MSU is a national seed. Their only weekend top 50 games were vs DBU and Bradley, which were both at home, and all 3 of them gamed the RPI system a bit to get to where they are.
It really comes down to the fact that there just isn't a strong 8th unless you are willing to give a 4th to the SEC or a 3rd to the ACC.
TCU's resume really is paper thin. I just don't think MSU is a national seed. Their only weekend top 50 games were vs DBU and Bradley, which were both at home, and all 3 of them gamed the RPI system a bit to get to where they are.
It really comes down to the fact that there just isn't a strong 8th unless you are willing to give a 4th to the SEC or a 3rd to the ACC.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:23 am to tmc94
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It really comes down to the fact that there just isn't a strong 8th unless you are willing to give a 4th to the SEC or a 3rd to the ACC.
This.
And those gamed RPIs are exactly what the NCAA wanted for northern teams. MSU may not be Ohio or Conn, but its not TX, LA, or FL either.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:41 am to Farmer1906
yeah, they changed the RPI formula to help out all the road games they have to play. But MSU played only 3 top 50 games not at home and went 1-2 (one was neutral). The one win was midweek vs Arkansas.
So what the committee was going for wasn't what propped up their RPI. It's that they piled up a bunch of wins vs the lepers of the MVC and picked up a bunch of midweek wins vs decent but not great competition on the road.
RPI is just meant to be a guideline and the committee has always looked deeper. It's why they began reaching for northern schools. But this case when they look deeper they'll see that MSU is the exact opposite of what you want to encourage. It's like the CFP committee picking Baylor. Play no one challenging and win. If you want worse scheduling by everyone in the future, pick MSU.
The committee has always been skewed towards schools playing a tougher schedule. I doubt that changes this year. Head to head, I think they'll reward TCU for going out and playing ASU and the Dodger Classic.
So what the committee was going for wasn't what propped up their RPI. It's that they piled up a bunch of wins vs the lepers of the MVC and picked up a bunch of midweek wins vs decent but not great competition on the road.
RPI is just meant to be a guideline and the committee has always looked deeper. It's why they began reaching for northern schools. But this case when they look deeper they'll see that MSU is the exact opposite of what you want to encourage. It's like the CFP committee picking Baylor. Play no one challenging and win. If you want worse scheduling by everyone in the future, pick MSU.
The committee has always been skewed towards schools playing a tougher schedule. I doubt that changes this year. Head to head, I think they'll reward TCU for going out and playing ASU and the Dodger Classic.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:47 am to tmc94
If they really do look at SOS that hard how the hell will Illi get a national seed? (They will of course) 183rd SOS. They played 21 games vs teams outside of the top 150 (1 loss). Their SOS for non conference was 234th. I have no idea that it could be so bad even though they went to OSU and took 2/3. They did win their 27th in a row yesterday.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 10:49 am to Farmer1906
TTU now leads 8-0 
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:02 am to Farmer1906
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TTU now leads 8-0
wow
This is essentially what the committee has in front of them. Compare Illinois. I don't know why SOS is so bad but they played (and won) a couple of very good OOC series.
MSU really stands out on a page like this
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:06 am to tmc94
That is a good vidual to see # of quality opponents. UL & Miami have some long lists.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:12 am to Farmer1906
yeah, they really are impressive to see like that. Louisville especially. It makes you wonder how their RPI isn't higher
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:38 am to tmc94
TCU down to their final out, trail 7 to TTU. Bases juiced. I hope he hits a grand slam and they still lose by 2.
And ballgame. TCU loses 1-8. Now lets see how quickly WN updates the RPI.
And ballgame. TCU loses 1-8. Now lets see how quickly WN updates the RPI.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 11:40 am
Posted on 5/21/15 at 11:40 am to Farmer1906
and ballgame. TCU loses 8-1. They put themselves on the bubble
Posted on 5/21/15 at 12:07 pm to tmc94
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@calexmendez
Schlossnagle on TCU's national-seed chances following the 0-2 Big 12 tournament: 'I think we're a slam dunk.'
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