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re: Fire Botch, Fire Rumlin... frick the bullshite

Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:25 am to
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18812 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:25 am to
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What's been the cog for TAMU that's failed week in and week out?


Our run defense is awful, tackling has improved marginally, but still bad. Both SC and State score on QB sneaks the first possession of the game. That's just not supposed to happen to an improving team unless you've failed to make adjustments.

Offense is relatively one dimensional and very predictable. we fail to spread the ball around to one of the other 3 5 star receivers on our roster not named Kirk. When you have Johnny and Mike Evans that can work, if you don't, well...

Also, the annual Midseason meltdown like we witnessed tonight. I've never seen anything like it. It seems like a leadership/attitude issue to me. Like the players just lose the excitement of playing Aggie football and have no motivation. I honestly don't have an answer for it, and either the head coach is the cause of it or he doesn't know how to fix it; both scenarios are unacceptable for someone getting paid 5 mil a year to coach football.

He's brought in a few really, really good recruiting classes and failed to develop them into a solid foundation to build upon for the future.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 5:38 am to
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lol stop trolling Walt


So the plan as I understand it is to fire Coach Jones -- which won't happen this or next year if we win 9 games at least.

Then, having disposed of Coach Jones, someone you fancy gets hired and takes 3-4 years to get "his players" on board so we can make a judgement as to his qualifications to beat Coach Saban and Bammer.

That takes us to about 2021.

By which Time Coach Saban will be retired.
This post was edited on 11/6/16 at 5:39 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 5:47 am to
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I'm like Commodus, just trying to give the people what they want. and the people want blood.


At least we are entertained.
Posted by Str8volfan
Member since Jan 2011
593 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 8:09 am to
so basically what Ive read is that 9-10 wins isnt good enoug anymore. If the coach of any program doesnt win the NC in 3 years, its time to fire him and start over?
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18812 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:50 am to
I believe what people are reacting to is y'all don't seem to be progressing with the talent butch is bringing in. Y'all could have easily lost three more games this year. Without divine intervention y'all lose to App. State, UGA, and Florida. And the fact that the bama fame hasn't been competitive in a decade. I was reacting and melting last night, but realistically I'd give butch another year or two to prove he can be a winner unless he completely fumbles the end of this season.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69932 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:08 am to
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Without divine intervention y'all lose to App. State, UGA, and Florida.



Bro, we beat the living shite out of Florida. We didn't get 1 lucky bounce in that game. If anything, UF got lucky with the plethora of drops we had in the first half.

No argument about the other 2 games tho.
Posted by Jim Croce
Member since Oct 2016
343 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:14 am to
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Without divine intervention y'all lose to App. State, UGA, and Florida



We literally beat Florida to within an inch of their life, and should have realistically won 45/52-21.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58348 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 11:57 am to
Martinez has reached his ceiling, needs to GTFO
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58348 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Users Prof and Walter are the only pro Butch VOLS left otb.


Don't you go around telling ppl Prof is using me
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58348 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:04 pm to
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Posted by Vols&Shaft83 online on 11/5/16 at 11:18 pm to Prof Yo Prof, YOU WANNA frickING THROW DOWN BRO? I'LL MEET YOU AT THE MOTHERfrickING KRYSTAL ON MOTHERfrickING LOVELL RD. ReplyOptionsTop 30 Posted by Prof on 11/5/16 at 11:19 pm to Vols&Shaft83 Time bro. I'm a motherfricking hammer so name it.



Ahhhhhhh, the long awaited Prof meeting Shaft over the middle

I'll have Muh targeting flag at the ready
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69932 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:06 pm to
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Martinez has reached his ceiling, needs to GTFO



Martinez, Mahoney, and Debord need to GTFO
Posted by Jim Croce
Member since Oct 2016
343 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:07 pm to
Toss in Azzanni and i'd consider it a successful offseason
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69932 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:08 pm to
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Toss in Azzanni and i'd consider it a successful offseason




The receivers have improved imo, but yeah, he can GTFO too
Posted by rockytop627
Member since Jan 2014
10041 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
Are you shitting me Walt? We could beat TN Tech 555-0 and it doesn't prove us to be a good team, or change the fact that we totally shite the bed against a SC team that has no business being on the same field as us talent wise.
Posted by Kraven Moorehed
Franklin
Member since Dec 2015
2325 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 12:48 pm to
Maybe, Moseley was a two star QB in high school and Martin may actually be retarded. Foreman was doing good for what he is.

I could take him or leave him.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Are you shitting me Walt? We could beat TN Tech 555-0 and it doesn't prove us to be a good team, or change the fact that we totally shite the bed against a SC team that has no business being on the same field as us talent wise.


Strawman.

When did I say that beating Tenn Tech made us a good team?

I thought we had established that we shite the bed yes, and that one of the major factors was bad team chemistry engendered by Jalen "Mail it in" Hurd.

Did we see a repair of team chemistry against Tenn Tech. No, but we saw some progress with the opponent as a function. Tenn Tech was not going to give us much of a game in any case.

But since actually playing games is the only way to quantify success, I offer it as a step forward.

I said we would know a lot more after Saturday and I think we do.

I will say this: This "Fire Butch Jones" thing is futile.

That is because he is not going to be fired, not after this season or the next.


Posted by Kraven Moorehed
Franklin
Member since Dec 2015
2325 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 1:12 pm to
Coaching changes that need to happen in my opinion.

New Oline coach. Mahoney's guys aren't developing and he isn't a good recruiter.

OC. I'm not as down on Debord as most. I think he is okay and has some personnel limits. Okay isn't good enough for us, though. We need someone who will play their guys to their strengths. Malone, Smith, and Jennings are not LOS receivers and Hurd was not a zone read RB. We need a guy who can attack defenses in multiple ways and exploit weaknesses. A lot of this falls on Butch.

QB coach. Might tie into the OC. It is absolutely retarded that we have a career oline coach working with the most important position on the field. Sheridan has almost no resume.


We might need changes at other spots, but those are the ones I want to see.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58348 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 3:29 pm to
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Martin may actually be retarded


this is true
Posted by tatervol
Lexington, TN
Member since Nov 2008
2159 posts
Posted on 11/6/16 at 10:13 pm to
I couldn't agree more do this and win out and I'll be back on board.
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