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Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:20 pm to CockInYourEar
Posted on 12/26/13 at 9:20 pm to CockInYourEar
quote:By my count, Richt has put 16 dbs in the NFL in 12 years of coaching (we won't know about this year till April) while Spurrier has put 13 in the league in 23 years of college coaching.
USC and Spurrier simply put more DB's and more starting DB's in the NFL than Richt.
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Posted on 12/26/13 at 10:42 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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By my count, Richt has put 16 dbs in the NFL in 12 years of coaching (we won't know about this year till April) while Spurrier has put 13 in the league in 23 years of college coaching.
We may need to check your count then. Spurrier put 12 in from USC since 2005 (if we count the ones I listed, plus Cook and Stewart that WheelRoute pointed out.) I know he had 4-5 Safety's go from UF, and I haven't even started to count the CB's yet, so we might need to review those stats.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:55 am to CockInYourEar
So basically your comment about USC being a better place was bullshyt. UGA has a solid history of DB's as does USC so the asinine comment was exactly that.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 7:59 am to CockInYourEar
Ah, I found my mistake. He had 7 at UF and has had 8 at USC. That's still one short of Richt in almost twice the time.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 8:19 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:36 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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However, we've had 10 dbs drafted since Spurrier was hired with an average selection of 126th.
I didn't start my analysis w/ when Spurrier was hired, I started it from two years into his hire so as to dissuade accusations that I was piggybacking on Holtz developed players (i.e. Simpson and Joseph). You're free to count however you like for Richt, I just started at 07 for him so the comparison would match what I did for Spurrier.
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I'd like to know how you did your recruiting rankings since 247 wasn't around long enough to get those for several of the recruits.
Just made a simple conversion key. 6.1=100, 6.0=97, 5.9=94 5.8=91... and so on.
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:43 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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So basically your comment about USC being a better place was bullshyt. UGA has a solid history of DB's as does USC so the asinine comment was exactly that.
No. The assertion is that UGA squanders talent in relation to USC (and thus Terry would be better off w/ us at DB). USC manages to put the same number of (or more) DB's in the league who not only have a much lower level of talent, but we also manage to do it w/ many fewer prospects who recruiting services would label pro material.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:53 am to WheelRoute
So because our team recruits better and delivers just as many into the nfl somehow this is a knock on UGA. Put the pipe down
Posted on 12/27/13 at 8:58 am to WheelRoute
You do realize recruiting rankings mean basically nothing right. If you are bein recruited by a div 1 school in the sec that means your pretty damn good at football. So we have produced at UGA just as many DBs as USC and because of recruiting you think this somehow means that the better program to attend if you are a db? Asinine
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 9:01 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:11 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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So because our team recruits better and delivers just as many into the nfl somehow this is a knock on UGA. Put the pipe down
Yes, it's a knock when compared to our DB development. You get the same results we do despite having more talent and more of that talent. Y'all haven't had a DB taken above the third round in that same period despite having multiple DB recruits w/ first and second round talent (Wynn, Allen, Byrd, Evans, B. Smith, Hamilton). And y'all don't have any undrafted success stories in that time period, either.
USC takes the 450th best player and gets him to the NFL in the 5th rd (and that's not even factoring in our several UDFA guys). UGA takes the 200th best player and gets him to the ...5th rd.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:16 am to WheelRoute
Your not even intelligent enough to understand what I just stated. recruiting rankings don't mean a damn thing once a kid steps on campus. UGA has taken many 3 star recruits and put them in the nfl and also had 5star recruits that couldn't make the field. It's not about rankings because some our best players are less heralded but they wouldn't be recruited by UGA if they suck. So don't invest so much of your confidence in recruiting rankings because it means diddly Fking squat. UGA puts just as many db's in the nfl so your comment is flat out wrong. Period
This post was edited on 12/27/13 at 9:18 am
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:17 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Your not even intelligent enough to understand what I jus states
Presented w/o comment.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:19 am to WheelRoute
Typing on an iPhone so auto correct :)
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:20 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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UGA puts just as many db's in the nfl so your comment is flat out wrong. Period
This is starting to feel like Hank trying to explain to the peasants in A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court why a higher salary doesn't necessarily mean a higher standard of living if you live in a town where you pay twice as much for goods and services.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:27 am to WheelRoute
Just to piggy back on what I just stated. You guys had Sheldon Royster a big time safety recruit and he transferred after 1 year with USC. I get that you think we just magically take 4 stars and make them bad but the best players play and we have taken a lot of db recruits and made them nfl players so if you think a kid would choose USC over UGA based on nfl prospects then you at living in a different world.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:32 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Just to piggy back on what I just stated. You guys had Sheldon Royster a big time safety recruit and he transferred after 1 year with USC.
Yes, USC has failed to develop some players (CC Whitlock, Brandon Isaac come to mind). However I wouldn't consider guys who transferred early on or were injured so much they couldn't get on the field as counting against a program. The argument, though, is that UGA has failed to develop much more talented players and many more of those talented players. This is pretty simple to understand and appears to be supported by the modest amount of data available.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:33 am to WheelRoute
Also, one of UGAs best players of all time in the history of the program was a 3 star fullback recruit. That's about all you need to know about recruiting rankings. David Pollack was a little 3 star bum coming in according to recruiting experts. So you comparing the 400rh rated kid to the 200th really doesn't mean a damn thing.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:36 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Also, one of UGAs best players of all time in the history of the program was a 3 star fullback recruit. That's about all you need to know about recruiting rankings. David Pollack was a little 3 star bum coming in according to recruiting experts. So you comparing the 400rh rated kid to the 200th really doesn't mean a damn thing.
Does UGA have a statistics class you could enroll in?
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:37 am to WheelRoute
UGA has had misfortune as we'll and not every kid lived up to his recurring billing. Then we have had low rated kids that turned into great DBs for us. Nick Marshall for instance was once a 4star cb for UGA. He would have probably made the nfl easily as a db. Instead....he probably won't even get a sniff from the nfl now that he is playing as a qb. You can't control the rankings all you can control is the players that make the field. Brandon Langley is another example of a guy that just flat out isn't very good and got beat out an out played by a less heralded recruit.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:38 am to WheelRoute
Dbs drafted for Richt go around 120.
Posted on 12/27/13 at 9:39 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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Dbs drafted for Richt go around 120.
In his entire tenure? Or from 2005? From 2007 it is 137th.
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