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re: Per AJC, a recruit from Georgia has already "quit on his college team"...

Posted on 7/2/13 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 12:57 pm to
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I thought it was clear that he would have been showcased more, at an earlier age, had he stayed in New Orleans.



as a 10 year old?
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 12:59 pm to
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To the point of the OP, the rumor is about DE Naim Mustaffa leaving Oklahoma St. He was a UGA commit at one point, but decommitted when it became clear he couldn't EE at UGA. He could at Ok St. It was a weird situation in Dec/Jan and apparently still is.

These kids need to learn about commitment. pandoras box seems to be opening this year and I forsee more to come. just like the delayed signing day LOI letters
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:00 pm to
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can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not. FTR, that's what I was saying


furthering your comment
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:34 pm to
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Pure speculation on my part, but I'd say Tyren Jones due to his size. He's only listed at 5-8.5 on 247 Sports, and that's probably a generous estimate like most athletes get coming out of high school. I can't see a guy that short being a running back that Nick Saban fits in his offense. He just reminds me of Dee Hart, who I said the same thing about coming out of high school.
Not reading all 8 pages to see if this has been posted yet, but a family member of Tyren's posts on 247 and he said that Tyren is kicking major arse in summer workouts and he will really push for 2nd string reps. Didn't really sound like a kid who had checked out on his team already. I highly doubt it's him.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:39 pm to
Pg 7 Tuck BBD (or Remy74 on here) also knows the family closely and posted the same
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:42 pm to
Yeah, I figured. It looked like the thread had gone off track by page 2 and I wasn't reading all that to see if it had been posted.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:43 pm to
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huh? South Ga might get less exposure, but that doesn't apply to the metro ATL kids. They get plenty


This. I hate how people don't recruit South Ga. It's frickin dumb. A lot of good talent is wasted because it's not a great spot to recruit. All recruiters want to do is recruit North Ga.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 1:45 pm to
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the rumor is about DE Naim Mustaffa leaving Oklahoma St. He was a UGA commit at one point, but decommitted when it became clear he couldn't EE at UGA. He could at Ok St. It was a weird situation in Dec/Jan and apparently still is.


I called it. I'm not surprised. Seems like Naim is just like his older brother.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 2:00 pm to
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This. I hate how people don't recruit South Ga. It's frickin dumb. A lot of good talent is wasted because it's not a great spot to recruit. All recruiters want to do is recruit North Ga.
Plenty of people recruit SGA. There are just 5 million people in Metro Atlanta so there are going to be more recruits in the area. Also, once you get pass the Macon line grades become more of an issue.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 2:07 pm to
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Plenty of people recruit SGA.


Not nearly as many was my point.

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once you get pass the Macon line grades become more of an issue.


Yeah that's a great point. Some of those kids don't even take/pass the SAT/ACT.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 2:45 pm to
Do we know who the rumor is about yet? Or if its just complete bullshite?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 2:55 pm to
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the rumor is about DE Naim Mustaffa leaving Oklahoma St. He was a UGA commit at one point, but decommitted when it became clear he couldn't EE at UGA. He could at Ok St. It was a weird situation in Dec/Jan and apparently still is.

few post up and on the last page as well
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 3:15 pm to
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Didn't three of Barbers Olinemen sign with a D1 school this year?
3 star offensive tackle Eason Fromayan signed with TCU and 3 star offensive guard Josh Harris signed with Wake Forest. Both were from Milton High School and in the class of 2013.

4 star offensive guard Brandon Kublanow signed with Georgia and 2 star Jake Boynton was committed to Kentucky for over half a year before decommitting and signing elsewhere (haven't figured out where yet). Both were from Walton High School and in the class of 2013.

Seems like a wash just looking at the 2013 class. I haven't looked into the 2014, 2015, or 2016 classes for offensive linemen that may have been playing for either team.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 7/2/13 at 3:33 pm to
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few post up and on the last page as well

I saw the thread was at 8 pages and I last read on page 3 I think ,so I didn't even attempt to look.

I like how he says one of GA's top recruits and the guy he's talking about is #30 in the state and a 3 star
This post was edited on 7/2/13 at 3:48 pm
Posted by Remy74
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:44 pm to
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Scary thing is he has great catching ability already and the quickest feet I've seen in a back outta HS in a long time, the jump cut the juke etc

I will continue to believe if he had stayed in La and never moved he would've been a 5* and one of the top RBs in the country (he was originally from Louisiana, moved I believe due to Katrina)


I think the reason he wasn't a 5 star is because he didn't do the Nike SPARQ & NFTC......the Camps. Unless analysts came to his games or saw the Georgia All-Stars 7on7 team, they probably didn't know how good a pass catcher he is.

Alvin Kamara is a beast......but I think he was ranked higher than Tyren by 3 of the rankings is because he enhanced his rating by going to the Nike Opening and showcasing his pass catching skills.

Also, agree with you on the quick feet. Just wait until we get video of the RBs doing the drills when practice gets started.
This post was edited on 7/3/13 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Remy74
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:51 pm to
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If he was underrated, what was Peyton Barber?

They played in the same division and had 6 common opponents, including each other, out of a 10 game schedule, so only 3 uncommon opponents.

Their rushing #'s from last year.

Barber - 225 Att for 1713 yds and 22 TD 7.61 YPC
Jones - 268 Att for 1682 yds and 16 TD 6.27 YPC


I'm not trying to make an argument that Barber is better, but if Jones was vastly underrated, what does that make Barber? I know Barber missed either most or all of his jr year due to an injury, which hurt him in the rankings, and I'm not sure if Jones was hurt his Sr year, but the #'s speak for themselves with that many common opponents, imo.


Walton played 3 top 12 teams in Class 6A that were not in the Region that Milton didn't play.

Brookwood
McEachern- Watch out for them this year. 2015 RB, Taj Griffin......NASTY.
North Cobb- Made the Georgia 6A Semifinals.

Walton also played with 4 Sophomore Offensive Lineman in 4 of the 8 games Jones' played. He missed the last 3 games of the season due to an MCL Sprain. Was due to return the next week but they lost in Round 1 of playoffs.

Walton was so dependent on Jones that in the game against North Cobb....down by 14 points late in the 3rd qtr on 4th down and 7.....They ran Jones instead of allowing McLeod to throw. North Cobb made the 6A Semifinals and was bragging that they held Jones to 177 yards rushing.

See his 2011 stats when he had a decent offensive line. 2,400 yards, 33 rushing TDs......3,000 All-Purpose Yards and 38 Total TDs. Led team to State Title game where they got blitzed by Robert Nkemdiche and Grayson.
This post was edited on 7/3/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:55 pm to
I still don't know why this is an argument. I thought it was clear what Buc was suggesting. That he was never in a RB friendly offense. You see more of those in the New Orleans high schools. I think that was his point.
Posted by Remy74
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:56 pm to
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I believe Walton had 4 sophomores starting on the Oline but I could be mistaken.


^^^This. Brandon Kublanow [at UGA now] and Jake Boynton [initially committed to Kentucky but decommitted after Joker was fired] both missed 4-5 games. Again, Jones only played in 8 games last year.
Posted by Remy74
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 3:58 pm to
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Didn't three of Barbers Olinemen sign with a D1 school this year? That may be why he wasn't as highly ranked.

Also, I'm pissed that he signed with y'all over us, I think he's going to be a damn good back whether he was running behind a D1 oline in high school or not.



I think 4 of the Milton lineman were committed to D1 Schools at one point. Think they averaged around 280-290 last year across the line.

With that....Barber is a good RB. I think he should have been a low 4 star. He can play.
Posted by Remy74
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Posted on 7/3/13 at 4:01 pm to
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I still don't know why this is an argument. I thought it was clear what Buc was suggesting. That he was never in a RB friendly offense. You see more of those in the New Orleans high schools. I think that was his point.


Actually, Tyren was in a very RB friendly offense.

-The issue is that he had a good line in 2011 and ran for 2,400 yards and 33 TDs. McLeod was healthy and they had 2 good WRs that graduated, 1 was Zack Blayock who along with his twin brother Daron signed with Kentucky in the Class of 2012.
-In 2012 he ran behind 4 sophmores for 1/2 the season, Parker McLeod [who is at Bama now] missed 5 games.....and overall teams stacked the box as they knew Walton was the Tyren Jones show with not much else. He still averaged 210 yards a game in the 8 games he played...with a sophomore line.
This post was edited on 7/3/13 at 4:03 pm
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